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Old Oct 8, 2007 | 04:51 PM
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rough start kinda .. question

i hope i am not beating a dead horse with his question , cause i have hit the search button to try to solve my problem .. but it is a little different then a few other ..
o.k . it is getting a little colder here at night .. but not that cold were there is frost or anything ... anyway my problem is when i go out to start my truck in the morning , or if my truck has sit for a few days and not been run .. it start right away and idles really rough puking white smoke for about 4-5 seconds and then clears right up and runs like a top .. and once warm ed up it start perfect ???

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Old Oct 8, 2007 | 04:52 PM
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I would run some injector cleaner stat, your symptoms lead to bad injector(s)
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Old Oct 8, 2007 | 04:57 PM
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wow fast response .. **** !! thats no good if that the problem .. i have a big think power service.. i usually run a dose of mmo and power service every fill up

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Old Oct 8, 2007 | 04:57 PM
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have you changed you fuel filter lately?
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Old Oct 8, 2007 | 04:59 PM
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also take it to the dealer and have your ECM updated to the latest software available for your truck.

http://www.dodgeram.info/tsb/2004/18-037-04.htm
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Old Oct 8, 2007 | 04:59 PM
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a few months ago i usually change it every other oil change .. i do my oil changes every 4000 miles
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Old Oct 8, 2007 | 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by swansong04
a few months ago i usually change it every other oil change .. i do my oil changes every 4000 miles
i would go ahead and do it again to rule that out.
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Old Oct 8, 2007 | 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by wreedCTD
also take it to the dealer and have your ECM updated to the latest software available for your truck.

http://www.dodgeram.info/tsb/2004/18-037-04.htm

i had the white smole tsb done a couple yrs ago
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Old Oct 8, 2007 | 05:01 PM
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have you checked for codes?
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Old Oct 8, 2007 | 05:02 PM
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have you checked for codes?

no .. what is the procedure for that again ?? 4 key cycles ???
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Old Oct 8, 2007 | 05:03 PM
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http://www.allpar.com/fix/codes.html
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Old Oct 9, 2007 | 01:29 PM
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have you checked for codes?


pulled the codes this is what came up

P0191 –

i looked it up and this is what it says

Fuel Rail Pressure Sensor Circuit Range/Performance
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Old Oct 9, 2007 | 01:42 PM
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hmm hopefully someone will chime in here who has had experience with that code and can tell you what to do.
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Old Oct 9, 2007 | 10:22 PM
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o.k. so i went out tonight and tried to start my truck .. and man !! it was a bugger to start !! after about 4 tries it did start and idled terrible for a bit and then finally cleared up !! you know the funny thing is i never did get a CEL come on ever.. and up to this point i have never thrown a CEL or a code !! argh !!!
any suggestions ??!!!


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Old Oct 10, 2007 | 02:40 AM
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the rail pressure code your getting is pretty common if you're running a box that increases fuel rail pressure. i had it myself but was able to clear it after several attempts and it has not come back. the starting problem you are experiencing sounds exactly like the one that i had until i got a re-flash about 3 weeks ago and have'nt had the problem since. i don't think this version of the new software has been available that long so if you were re-flashed several years ago it might no longer be the latest version for your truck.
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