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Replacement Oil Pans: Any After-market?

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Old Dec 10, 2013 | 06:59 AM
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A leaky, degraded pan has to be replaced. Steve, you've turned this pan replacement thread into a pan maintenance thread. The OP doesn't need spray paint, he needs a new pan. No amount of your insistence will change that or magically repair the OPs unserviceable pan.
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Old Dec 11, 2013 | 12:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Steve-l
For the gentleman that insists this issue is a factory issue,.....
Originally Posted by Steve-l
I would love to hear the OP's reason for calling the pan a POS and why he thinks he needs to replace it. It is also perfectly logical that aftermarket pans are not available. THERE IS NO MARKET.....They don't break.
-You are still so missing the point. I will say it again for you. There is a market because many people have had problems with them.
-The person who started this thread didn't know that he was expected to have to take his brand new trucks oil pan and strip it and prime it
and paint it and jump through hoops that he had never had to do with any other vehicle just to keep his oil pan from rusting.
-I am very happy that you have not had any problems with your oil pan due to your wise implementation of a stringent oil pan preservation program.
-That doesn't help those of us who through luck or Divine Intervention had never in the last 44 years of owning automobiles had ever
had to do any maintenance on an oil pan to keep it from rusting.
-We were just too stupid to know that when we bought our Rams that the oil pan would be a POS and would need extra maintenance especially in high corrosion areas.
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Old Dec 11, 2013 | 06:30 AM
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I find it weird that so much PM must take place even though they don't break.
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Old Dec 11, 2013 | 10:17 AM
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If I buy something from a manufacturer as a finished product, for example, a truck, I should not reasonably expect that I should have to modify it in any way to prevent it from breaking. Whether the failure (rust through of the oil pan) is caused by poor paint prep, or the composition of the steel used in the part is inferior, it is by no means my fault if the product fails. To expect that I should have to do anything more than basic preventative maintainence is ridiculous.
Now then, if I cause damage to the pan, say I scrape it on rocks or something, and it fails, the blame now falls to me.
Oh yeah, to the OP, try finding one at a salvage yard, surely some have made their way to the yards by now.

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Old Dec 11, 2013 | 10:48 AM
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The 5.9CTD is highly sought after in salvage yards and the chance of getting the yard to pull a pan off of a complete motor could be a challenge.
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Old Dec 11, 2013 | 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve-l
Rust is not a valid reason for calling an oil pan a POS. It is an example of poor maintenance and owner neglect. Unfortunately, this is only one of many examples of not accepting personal responsibility by blaming others for their own lack of due diligence in our society today.
Steve,

This thread was started by me. My friend tells people that if you buy a car used buy it from JOE. I have the same snowblower and lawn mower for 20 years and use it two to three times a week. Still looks like new. I am ****!!!! I am VERY **** about everything I own. I spent two weeks doing what you did sitting under my truck cribbed four feet in the air. I prepped and painted everything that was black to no avail. I did not do the oil pan. Now I see it would have made no difference anyway. Just about everything I painted did not last.

There was no rust on my 06 Subaru when I sold it at 6 years and 60,000 miles. It road more miles and shorter local trips in a longer time period than my Ram on the same roads. I have had more crap fixed on my truck since I bought it from my uncle (whom pampered it)at 2 y/o and 47,500 miles. It now has 88,000 and 8 yr 9 months old. It is sad how they use such poor material to build these trucks.

Last March 28th I was at the dealer getting an oil change ( mistake) when I looked at two Rubicons. I notice the front and rear drive train components were all surface coated with rust on both. There was snow on the ground. I proceeded to look at the build date on the jeeps and low and behold they were built in 03/2013. WTH? Not even a month old. That is PATHETIC!!!!!!!!!

So lets get back to the original question and Stop Drinking The Cool Aid.
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Old Dec 11, 2013 | 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by JOE M

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Last March 28th I was at the dealer getting an oil change ( mistake) when I looked at two Rubicons. I notice the front and rear drive train components were all surface coated with rust on both. There was snow on the ground. I proceeded to look at the build date on the jeeps and low and behold they were built in 03/2013. WTH? Not even a month old. That is PATHETIC!!!!!!!!!



So lets get back to the original question and Stop Drinking The Cool Aid.

You should see the frame rot occurring on the '97-'06 Wranglers. So many pics on the Internet of total frame rot. Usually in the low spots where they didn't put any drain holes. The steel rusts faster than anything I've seen. Made me drill holes in mine and spray the inside of the entire frame.
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