Rear Differential Oil TSB
i started to post right above and retracked it... now I think I will post anyway.
people *** MAY NOT *** be reading the complete thread... so here I go on the 75 - 90 vrs 140 wt. oil.... If you are looking at the beginning of the post and ASSUMING that the 70 - 140 wt. oil is the correct wt.... I do not think it is.... I posted above on the beginning of page#2 that the GENO's TSB was a old release dated Jan. 04... and DODGE TECH AUTHORITY web site had a "newer" release of the TSB dated May 04... the DODGE tsb stated to use what the manual states... 75 - 90 wt... I am just noting this again because I still see people thinking/talking about using the 140 wt...
it alll... I may call myself in AM and find out...
people *** MAY NOT *** be reading the complete thread... so here I go on the 75 - 90 vrs 140 wt. oil.... If you are looking at the beginning of the post and ASSUMING that the 70 - 140 wt. oil is the correct wt.... I do not think it is.... I posted above on the beginning of page#2 that the GENO's TSB was a old release dated Jan. 04... and DODGE TECH AUTHORITY web site had a "newer" release of the TSB dated May 04... the DODGE tsb stated to use what the manual states... 75 - 90 wt... I am just noting this again because I still see people thinking/talking about using the 140 wt...
it alll... I may call myself in AM and find out...
Ckennedy
The TSB I initially referenced at the start of this string that states the new recommendation for 11.5 is 75w/140 oil was dated May 11, 2004, and says it supersedes the Jan 13, 2004 TSB!
Date: May 11, 2004
THIS BULLETIN SUPERSEDES TECHNICAL SERVICE BULLETIN 03-001-04, DATED JANUARY 13, 2004.
(DR) RAM TRUCK 2500 - 3500
AXLE FLUID LEVEL
(measured from the bottom of the fill hole) FLUID CAPACITY
10.5 Rear Axle 25 mm (1 in.) ± 6 mm (1/4 in.) 2.5L (85 oz.) - SAE 75W-140 Synthetic
11.5 Rear Axle 6 mm (1/4 in.) ± 6 mm (1/4 in.) 3.6 L (122 oz.) - SAE 75W-140 Synthetic
9 1/4 Front Axle 6 mm (1/4 in.) ± 6 mm (1/4 in.) 2.2 L (76 oz.) - SAE 75W-90 Non Synthetic
Do you have a link or a copy of the TSB you could share that supersedes the May 11, 2004 TSB?
The TSB I initially referenced at the start of this string that states the new recommendation for 11.5 is 75w/140 oil was dated May 11, 2004, and says it supersedes the Jan 13, 2004 TSB!
Date: May 11, 2004
THIS BULLETIN SUPERSEDES TECHNICAL SERVICE BULLETIN 03-001-04, DATED JANUARY 13, 2004.
(DR) RAM TRUCK 2500 - 3500
AXLE FLUID LEVEL
(measured from the bottom of the fill hole) FLUID CAPACITY
10.5 Rear Axle 25 mm (1 in.) ± 6 mm (1/4 in.) 2.5L (85 oz.) - SAE 75W-140 Synthetic
11.5 Rear Axle 6 mm (1/4 in.) ± 6 mm (1/4 in.) 3.6 L (122 oz.) - SAE 75W-140 Synthetic
9 1/4 Front Axle 6 mm (1/4 in.) ± 6 mm (1/4 in.) 2.2 L (76 oz.) - SAE 75W-90 Non Synthetic
Do you have a link or a copy of the TSB you could share that supersedes the May 11, 2004 TSB?
Jim -
Thanks for the note... first let me say seems like I am half right...
You are indeed correct about the tsb at top of thread... don't know how I got it wrong but I did.. guess I have to many tsb's floating around... BUT I will upload the DODGE TECH AUTHORITY tsb ** dated the same day, MAY 11 *** BUT does not have the 140 wt. oil listed.... hmmmmmm. now this can get confusing....
guess I need to be more careful about trying to help...
ps: will upload and post link asap...
Thanks for the note... first let me say seems like I am half right...
You are indeed correct about the tsb at top of thread... don't know how I got it wrong but I did.. guess I have to many tsb's floating around... BUT I will upload the DODGE TECH AUTHORITY tsb ** dated the same day, MAY 11 *** BUT does not have the 140 wt. oil listed.... hmmmmmm. now this can get confusing....
guess I need to be more careful about trying to help...
ps: will upload and post link asap...
here it is... my get out of jail free card.
http://home.satx.rr.com/sandmanxx/axle-fluid.pdf
ps: don't know what to say but guess it is time to call the dealer...
http://home.satx.rr.com/sandmanxx/axle-fluid.pdf
ps: don't know what to say but guess it is time to call the dealer...
Wow! That makes it clear! There is no correct answer!
You can choose which ever TSB you want to support your use of 75w/90 or 75w/140 oil for your 11.5 axle
Since I just put in the 75w/140 (and paid twice as much the 75/90 wt) and since it is so hot in AZ I will run with it.
At least both TSBs agree on filling to the hole
I would ask the dealer but I don't think they ever read the TSBs. Maybe this is why. It may be best to just follow the owner's manual unless you get a letter from DC telling you to do otherwise.
You can choose which ever TSB you want to support your use of 75w/90 or 75w/140 oil for your 11.5 axle
Since I just put in the 75w/140 (and paid twice as much the 75/90 wt) and since it is so hot in AZ I will run with it.
At least both TSBs agree on filling to the hole
I would ask the dealer but I don't think they ever read the TSBs. Maybe this is why. It may be best to just follow the owner's manual unless you get a letter from DC telling you to do otherwise.
Originally posted by Jim O
I wonder if GM has changed their spec for the Dmax trucks as they have the same Diffs?
I just changed my diffs again (Mobil 1 75-90 synthetic) I have a Grande Cherokee that calls for 75-140 and I know DC are very proud of that oil as is reflected in their price. I just bought a case of the Mobile1 75-90 and I will use it up in the Front diff ( because of the cold weather that we can get up here,I will continue to use synthetic in the Front diff.) Who else makes a 75-140 synthetic besides DC for my next change?
Jim O
I wonder if GM has changed their spec for the Dmax trucks as they have the same Diffs?
I just changed my diffs again (Mobil 1 75-90 synthetic) I have a Grande Cherokee that calls for 75-140 and I know DC are very proud of that oil as is reflected in their price. I just bought a case of the Mobile1 75-90 and I will use it up in the Front diff ( because of the cold weather that we can get up here,I will continue to use synthetic in the Front diff.) Who else makes a 75-140 synthetic besides DC for my next change?
Jim O
Thanks Nevada
I only have about 1000miles since I changed oil in both diffs
(mobile1 75-90) and after the new year I plan to pull my fifth wheel from up here in Canada to Daytona for the Daytona 500 and back to Vegas for the Nascar race there in March. I may only have a few thousand miles on it but I think I will look for the Mobil 1 75-140 and change the rear diff before I leave.
Jim O
I only have about 1000miles since I changed oil in both diffs
(mobile1 75-90) and after the new year I plan to pull my fifth wheel from up here in Canada to Daytona for the Daytona 500 and back to Vegas for the Nascar race there in March. I may only have a few thousand miles on it but I think I will look for the Mobil 1 75-140 and change the rear diff before I leave.
Jim O
Unless I receive a TSB from DC in my mailbox I will follow the procedures as stipulated in my owners manual. I thought it was ridiculous that you have to change the differential fluid at 15K mile intervals, but it just keeps getting more ridiculous.
Well, hell's bell's! I just replaced mine with Royal Purple 75/90! Saw this thread and
! Well, it's in the owners manual to use 75/90 and I haven't had problems. I guess it if it were a real issue, we may have gotten something in the mail to get it right. I don't know. But that's my story and I'm sticking to it.
! Well, it's in the owners manual to use 75/90 and I haven't had problems. I guess it if it were a real issue, we may have gotten something in the mail to get it right. I don't know. But that's my story and I'm sticking to it.
I too will stay with 75-90 until I get something in the mail informing me otherwise. And as far as filling to the bottom of the hole goes... I did that 3 times and 3 times the rear pinion seal failed, leaking and throwing oil everywhere. It would come back from the dealer low (or I thought so) and I would "TOP OFF". Only to have it fail later. Last time I measured down 1/2". 15k and good to go! Do what you want to. I have learned there are a whole lot of arm chair wrenches on the net.
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and fill it to 1/2 below the hole 