3rd Gen Engine and Drivetrain -> 2003-2007 5.9 liter Engine and drivetrain discussion only. PLEASE, NO HIGH PERFORMANCE DISCUSSION!

Open Air Box

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Feb 1, 2006 | 03:55 PM
  #1  
04 SO CA's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 174
Likes: 0
From: So. California
Angry Open Air Box

Truck was at dealer a couple of weeks ago for new lift pump after code and check engine light, but that's another issue.

Today I popped the hood to check fluids and found that dealer left air filter box wide open. I have driven about 1,000 miles with no filtered air intake. A few of these miles on a dusty dirt road. Truck seems to be running fine at this point but I am concerned about internal damage.

What problems might I have in the future due this issue? Is there anything I should do now?

Rick
Reply
Old Feb 1, 2006 | 04:16 PM
  #2  
HaulinBut's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 295
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by 04 SO CA
Truck was at dealer a couple of weeks ago for new lift pump after code and check engine light, but that's another issue.

Today I popped the hood to check fluids and found that dealer left air filter box wide open. I have driven about 1,000 miles with no filtered air intake. A few of these miles on a dusty dirt road. Truck seems to be running fine at this point but I am concerned about internal damage.

What problems might I have in the future due this issue? Is there anything I should do now?

Rick
Here is my guess as an engine builder:
With the box up front and up high, I would think that if anything, you helped your mighty CTD get a little further along in it's break-in period. Unless the goofs left a wrench or some other foreign object, (and the turbo would "filter" such items out), I wouldn't expect there to be any detectable damage.
However, it might be worth mentioning it to the service mgr, and I would think very seriously about finding someone else to service your truck.
Mike
Reply
Old Feb 1, 2006 | 04:26 PM
  #3  
04 SO CA's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 174
Likes: 0
From: So. California
Thanks for the info. This is what I was hoping to hear. I did infact mention this to the service manager and had him document the incident.

Rick
Reply
Old Feb 1, 2006 | 04:45 PM
  #4  
Rambunctious1's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 482
Likes: 0
From: San Luis Obispo, CA
Maybe get an oil sample for peace of mind. That way you'll know if anything got in there and contaminated yer motor.
Reply
Old Feb 1, 2006 | 05:17 PM
  #5  
4x4not's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 1,162
Likes: 0
From: Denver, CO
Definately get an oil sample. And go talk to the general manager of the dealership. Not quite as bad as forgetting to put oil back in after an oil change, but still pretty stupid
Reply
Old Feb 1, 2006 | 06:17 PM
  #6  
Lary Ellis (Top)'s Avatar
Admin Team Leader
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 15,514
Likes: 207
Had that happen to me one time as well, I talked them into a free oil change out of the deal.
Reply
Old Feb 1, 2006 | 10:11 PM
  #7  
Cummins600's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 266
Likes: 0
From: Texas, Hill Country
Yep, I'd press them for a freash oil change & filter. The Oil's Silicon count (and other things) could be pretty high now.

Originally Posted by Lary Ellis (Top)
Had that happen to me one time as well, I talked them into a free oil change out of the deal.
Reply
Old Feb 1, 2006 | 11:13 PM
  #8  
rockhound's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 340
Likes: 0
From: Bailey, CO
what about dirt in the turbo?
Reply
Old Feb 2, 2006 | 06:13 AM
  #9  
dogger's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 570
Likes: 0
From: South TX
Originally Posted by 04 SO CA
Today I popped the hood to check fluids and found that dealer left air filter box wide open.
I thought I saw another thread by you about this particular dealer. If so find another dealer as these guys must have received any training from a Cracker Jack box. No offense to Cracker Jacks.

L8r,............dogger
Reply
Old Feb 2, 2006 | 06:22 AM
  #10  
Shovelhead's Avatar
Administrator / Scooter Bum
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 9,086
Likes: 49
From: Central VA
I'd press for an oil change and an oil sample analyzed on their dime.
and I'd WATCH them take, and package for sending the sample, then I'D take it to the post office.
Reply
Old Feb 2, 2006 | 06:56 AM
  #11  
PourinDiesel's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 5,352
Likes: 0
From: Southern, Indiana
Definitely change the oil first thing.
Do it on the dealers dime.

Have someone who knows a little bit about turbos look your turbo's compressor wheel over (not some dealer "tech").

Then complain to dealer that you want the intake tube cleaned or replaced, intercooler cleaned, intercooler tubes cleaned or replaced.

Don't let them make excuses this could have caused engine damage.
Reply
Old Feb 2, 2006 | 09:21 AM
  #12  
BigBlue's Avatar
Banned
 
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 0
Likes: 0
That's alright. When I took mine in to have the ball joints the truck came back with a nice clunking sound to it. I couldn't figure it out. Got under the truck one day and found out that the SOB's had left the 2 caliper bolts completely out of my driver side caliper.
Reply
Old Feb 3, 2006 | 07:39 PM
  #13  
TAS05CTD610's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 793
Likes: 0
From: West Warwick, RI
Originally Posted by Shovelhead
I'd press for an oil change and an oil sample analyzed on their dime.
and I'd WATCH them take, and package for sending the sample, then I'D take it to the post office.
That pretty much sums it up. I have the advantage of having lots of lawyers at work so they do that too. I have a problem I have them draft up a record that I reported it and this and that, and normally the service is very cheep That's the really nice thing about here, is it's such a big company they don't ask questions. When my power steering pump was bad I asked to go open the hood of a brand new truck and look, new pump for free. Sometimes you really just have to show them, that it's there fault (like no oil in motor, or no air filter, they could have very well cost you the life of the engine) Always document stuff like that, it'll help you if something big does happen to your motor.

I mean if they have to fix something they've never delt with, it's hard sometimes, but not putting your air box back together, common sense
Reply
Old Feb 4, 2006 | 04:22 AM
  #14  
TexasCTD's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 5,680
Likes: 2
From: McKinney, TX
Originally Posted by TAS05CTD610
Sometimes you really just have to show them, that it's there fault (like no oil in motor, or no air filter, they could have very well cost you the life of the engine) Always document stuff like that, it'll help you if something big does happen to your motor.

I mean if they have to fix something they've never delt with, it's hard sometimes, but not putting your air box back together, common sense

I don't know if common sense in that case was really the issue. I think the tech just got in a hurry and got careless. He gets paid by moving that vehicle in and out as quick as possible and moving on to the next hunk of steel to make his money on. There is no love for your truck at a dealership, like you love your truck.
Reply
Old Feb 4, 2006 | 01:31 PM
  #15  
04 SO CA's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 174
Likes: 0
From: So. California
Thank you all for your replies. I had the incident documented with the service manager, and a printed copy is in my file. I'm changing oil this weekend. Thought about pushing for dealer to change oil, but don't want them touching anything else.

I'm going to take the advise of many of you and get an oil sample analysis. How is this done? Or, should I say, Who do I contact?

Thanks again for all the info. This site has helped so much in my diesel education.

Rick
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:15 PM.