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Old 06-10-2007, 05:52 PM
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You could degrease the engine, let it dry, top it off with oil and crank it. If the oil reappears at the head gasket and out the exhaust ports........
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Originally Posted by Totallyrad
You could degrease the engine, let it dry, top it off with oil and crank it. If the oil reappears at the head gasket and out the exhaust ports........
Done that. I degreased this morning then HAD to take the truck to my shop where I could work on it. The engine was complete clean and it was a 1000 yard scary trip there. I hated to do it but it was the only way to get it there.

No oil reappeared but man did it send out the more white smoke I've even seen and oil poured out of the exhaust.
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Originally Posted by 53 ******
if a injector(s) where blown then why would there be oil in the exhaust????
the turbos I have seen blow oil seals have no oil on the head exhaust ports...just oil from the turbo exhaust back down the tail pipe....


is this stock turbo???
what psi where you pushing???
I think injectors are in addition to the other problems. It would explain the huge white smoke.

Yes, it's a stock turbo and never saw over 40psi.

This is something someone mentioned at another forum....

If the charger wasn't spinning fast, and drive pressure was going nuts, you could certainly push oil past the compressor. ( into the exhaust ports ) This is how some "runaway diesel" accidents happen.
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Originally Posted by tritont
I think injectors are in addition to the other problems. It would explain the huge white smoke.

Yes, it's a stock turbo and never saw over 40psi.

This is something someone mentioned at another forum....

If the charger wasn't spinning fast, and drive pressure was going nuts, you could certainly push oil past the compressor. ( into the exhaust ports ) This is how some "runaway diesel" accidents happen.
I thought run away diesel happens when the oil seal leaks to the INTAKE side and feeds/fuels the engine with oil through the intake.....causing the engine to runaway even when the fuel is cut cause it is running on oil not diesel fuel......



oil in the exhaust will smoke WHITE just like an injector it's blue when it burns in the cylinders.....
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hurry up and fire it up with out the turbo on!!! I wanna know if it smokes still???
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Originally Posted by 53 ******
hurry up and fire it up with out the turbo on!!! I wanna know if it smokes still???
Sorry 53. I also have the exhaust manifold off. I couldn't wait any longer for a 13mm SS HTT housing so, my 64/14 will be here tomorrow. I'll install it and my ATS manifold and see what happens.

If I can figure out how to remove the injectors, it may be a while though. Will have to send them out to Don. Know of any good manual online or directions ?
DDP has one but, it sure seemed like a lot more than necessary... or maybe it's not.
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That was a costly trip to prove some Highlands boys wrong. Send me an e-mail. The guys next door may have the tools to pull injectors. I give you there number and you can call them tommorrow. You'll want to talk to Shawn Mcgahee. He pretty smart on all diesels. Big and small. Maybe he can help ya out.
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Originally Posted by tritont
Sorry 53. I also have the exhaust manifold off. I couldn't wait any longer for a 13mm SS HTT housing so, my 64/14 will be here tomorrow. I'll install it and my ATS manifold and see what happens.

If I can figure out how to remove the injectors, it may be a while though. Will have to send them out to Don. Know of any good manual online or directions ?
DDP has one but, it sure seemed like a lot more than necessary... or maybe it's not.

you could still fire it off without the manifold, if you want to...then you wont dump oil down your brand new turbo if it is engine damage.
it would be loud...but you would know right now if you have engine problems and not just turbo problems....

let us know what you find either way
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Originally Posted by Hippie816
That was a costly trip to prove some Highlands boys wrong. Send me an e-mail. The guys next door may have the tools to pull injectors. I give you there number and you can call them tommorrow. You'll want to talk to Shawn Mcgahee. He pretty smart on all diesels. Big and small. Maybe he can help ya out.
all a part of the game ;-) better to happen close to home than at an event some where. I know I'll never hear the end of it though.
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Well guys... I think the worse that could happen, has.... I don't know for sure though so you tell me please.

Got the new turbo and manifold installed. Completely took apart the exhaust and clean it a good as I could. Drained the oil and changed the filter. The moment of truth.... I crank it up and it runs.

Unfortunately, the oil continues to drain out of the exhaust. The truck runs with a very ruff idle and actually sounds like one of the sled pullers with a lugging turbo. I don't believe my 64/14 will do that...?

I let it run for a while hoping the oil will stop draining but, after 5 minutes it continued.

When I was running it, I idled up and got the turbo spooled. Once it was spooled the rough running idle cleaned up and it seemed ready to rock. Back to idle though it runs rough.

The smoke only looks white and there still a lot of it. My Smarty is telling me cylinder #4 is misfiring... obviously full of oil.

If you don't mind.... what is my next step ? Do these motors have sleeved cylinders ? Did I fry a piston ring and oil is blowing by it ? I'm really shocked at this since most of you guys are running a ton more HP than me. I figured the motor could handle a little more than what I gave it.
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Originally Posted by tritont
. It saw some very high EGT's but, from what everyone has said... in a 1/4 race everyone does.

so how high where your EGT's?????
I am beginning to think you melted/distorted number #4 piston??????
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Sounds like at the very least you cracked some piston rings, how is the crank vent tube? more than the normal amount of oil dripping from it, or is there no blow by/oil coming from it? With the engine running hold a clean rag over the crank vent tube for a minute or so. Post what you find.


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Originally Posted by tritont
The smoke only looks white and there still a lot of it. My Smarty is telling me cylinder #4 is misfiring... obviously full of oil.
Do you mean your smarty is reading a code about #4 injector misfire? Are you sure it is oil dumping out your exhaust and not diesel fuel with soot in it?
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were in nc are you located?
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Im absolutely no help with diagnostics...but here is a link to an injector install

http://www.glacierdieselpower.com/im...ectInstall.pdf


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