There were two people calling it two different things and some others calling it other things. That's why ask the question. Everyone is right, no one is wrong. Get back to your lives.

high idle enabled today @ dealer

BDTD enables both the PTO throttle and the high idle function.
The high idle is controlled by the cruise buttons,

idle up feature from 1100-1500 rpms is all run thru the cruise buttons or other controller and the PTO sense connection

automatic high idle feature that goes to 1000 rpms is enbled in the engine management software

flip the bit in the ECU that enables idle up

I tried the cruise high idle

high idle (automatic) and the idle up (cruise buttons)

That is the automatic high idle. He had the manual high idle turned on that use the cruise control buttons

if you want to be able to "turn on" the high idle

 

Always good to have a NY resolution

I actually agree but maybe ignoring it is the more seasonal response? A lot of members should 'search' more often, myself included.

Merry New Year.

 

hahaha...very funny to see that issue brought up. and nice work to BlackPuff for the follow up as to his issues - always cool to see that.

It is, however, true. Lots of posts with poor grammar and no information on any forum...a situation where someone not only is unwilling to put in the time to SEARCH for the answer on their own, but to lazy to even give the information people need to help solve a problem for them.

sometimes I find myself needing to contribute to the forum more, instead of just lurking around using the search feature. which is gonzo good.

 

As for the vague topics, it would be handy to have the feature they have at many other forums where you hold your mouse over the topic and and you see a preview of the post. I mentioned that to the web guy here and he doesn't like that feature.

 

Not knowing how to pose/word the question complicates using a simple search.

Y'all need to remember that at one time, you knew nothing about your trucks.

There will always be those who ask questions that have been answered in the past. We all have to learn somehow.

Getting frustrated with it? Move on to another thread. Giving someone a hard time about it helps nothing.
A bunch of folks posting the same frustrations in the same thread amounts to thread-crapping. Stop it.

These forum servers are substantially loaded. Instituting the mouse-over feature presents additional demands.

 

Question:

1) Does my '03 6spd have hi idle or only the 04.5-UP?

2) If yes I have it, is there a wire than needs to grounded to enable the feature since I have the manual tranny?
(Where is that wire located?)

3) Do all trucks need to have the feature enabled by the dealer (or were some years all enabled at factory)?

4) I understand to make it operate, you need to:
a) Turn Cruise ON
b) Press "SET" to get 1000rpm
c) Then press "Accel" to get 1500rpm

Please let me know if those are correct-

Thanks,
Bob

 

If you look at #26 of this thread, you will find that I have directed you to this thread https://www.dieseltruckresource.com/d...highlight=high. I do not own a 2003, but it is talked about in above thread. Also check #27 of this thread on instructions on how to use the "search" to find more threads on this subject. Your step #4 is correct if the feature has been enabled by the dealer. No truck that I know of older than 2008 has had it enabled at the factory. This is used "mostly" for cold weather warmup.

 

That thread is just like most of them, undefinitive when its done. Partly because nobody will post back results of getting thigns to work when they find them.

Build date previous to Dec 10 2003 will not do idle feature with the cruise buttons UNLESS the correct flash is loaded into the ECU and it is enabled. It is a Dodge only feature that was added when Dodge started doing their own own OS loads into the ECU. The 04 ECU is capable if the correct version is loaded.

The 03 ECU is not capable and the TSB's detail replacing and reflashing to get it to work. It may or may not work depending on the cruise type installed on the truck.

Automatics don't need the pin 22 grounded as it is already grounded thru the neutral safety switch. Manuals need it grounded to function correctly.

BDTD will allow the use of PTO idle up on an 03, its range is 900-1800 rpm's. All the ones I have seen work are autos, assume pin 22 needs grounded as it is the PTO sense wire.

 

Good point Six oh no,

I wish folks would post when things work!! I've searched for a lot of problems and people write that they will try something and report back, but never do!

Yep, I'm not going to reply when something gets my goat. That's one NY resolution....

I learn a lot here, and I like it!

Now I have to find some cold weather oil for my truck....

 

I don't use it in my Cummins (though it's approved) but the 5W40 Rotella T Synthetic should be a good cold wx oil.

Bob

 

Thank-you!
Bob

 

The idle up feature can be selected at any time, doesn't have to be during a reflash.

I need to clarify something here, there is a difference from a reflash for small fixes and options, and, a complete ECU reload with new code that contains other functionality. The way I read the TSB's tells me if you have an ECU in a certain range it will NEED to be completely reloaded to get not only the idle up option but alos the base code to make it happen. Its like 2 different things, a piece to turn it on and a piece to actually control it. The TSB's also detail if the ECU is in a certain range you will NEED a different ECU. That tells me that not all of the ECU's have enough memory\transistors\etc to make it work correctly.

It has been suggested that certain type of speed\cruise control will not work. Depending on how they are implemented that could be entirely true. A vacuum operated cable actuated cruise control may not even talk to the ECU only look at wheel speed and a brake signal. The TSB's specifically call out SPEED CONTROL as the actuator which is normally a manual tranmission implementation. Thats foggy because tech writings do not ALWAYS use the correct language.

That has been postulated as a correct assumption. No way to tell for sure unless you test every combination. Again, the fact that Dodge has TSB's that detail the procedure AND the fact the BDTD will enable an idle up as its own feature suggests that the type of speed control may NOT be pertinent.

Its pin #22 of the ECU B connector. Looking at the ECU from the drivers side the front connector is A, the rear is B.

 

Thanks!