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Decision to buy a Dodge or a Duramax??

Old Jul 15, 2006 | 12:37 PM
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whomever said the 305/555 motors have more throttle response is crazy,ive have 4 friends with 555s and they all love power my 05 has stock. in fact 1 of my buddies has a edge ez on his and when tow r fifthwheels hes amazed how i can stay with him on the hills. to be fair tho,ive got 4.10s and he has 3.73s. dont get me wrong, the 555 r awsome,but stock for stock the 610s r stronger. jmo
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Old Jul 15, 2006 | 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by anni2VADER
whomever said the 305/555 motors have more throttle response is crazy,ive have 4 friends with 555s and they all love power my 05 has stock. in fact 1 of my buddies has a edge ez on his and when tow r fifthwheels hes amazed how i can stay with him on the hills. to be fair tho,ive got 4.10s and he has 3.73s. dont get me wrong, the 555 r awsome,but stock for stock the 610s r stronger. jmo
Please, what did he have the Edge set on? And what's the weight of the 5vers?
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Old Jul 15, 2006 | 06:37 PM
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we have the same trailers, 34ft tahoe toy haulers. he has the edge set on 3 ,he has 315 bfgs,i have 285 mtrs.
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Old Jul 15, 2006 | 06:39 PM
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sorry the weights loaded r about 11500.
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Old Jul 15, 2006 | 08:26 PM
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chevy 4x4 4-door diesel duramax $31,500. try to buy a mega cab for that
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Old Jul 15, 2006 | 08:54 PM
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Thumbs up Cummins

Duracrap is an Isuzu moter, the Cummins is made in Indiana. U.S.A.
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Old Jul 15, 2006 | 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by simco6
chevy 4x4 4-door diesel duramax $31,500. try to buy a mega cab for that
does that chev come w/ radio, heater, and whitewalls?
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Old Jul 15, 2006 | 09:36 PM
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that chevy is loaded just like my 2006 dodge, don't get me wrong i wouldn't trade my new dodge mega-cab for that durasux. but when you start comparing prices the chevy's are looking pretty good.
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Old Jul 15, 2006 | 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by dale29
does that chev come w/ radio, heater, and whitewalls?
Thats what I was wondering.
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Old Jul 16, 2006 | 11:14 AM
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I wouldn't buy a Chevy even if it was only $25,000.
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Old Jul 16, 2006 | 12:47 PM
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I guess things have changed, when I went looking for a 4-door back in 2002 the chevy was 5k more than the Ford and the Chev sales people were downright arrogant and not budging on the price. I had one guy tell me they "might" come 500 off the sticker but probably not. Thats when I bought my first ford (another story, last day of the month etc. couldn't pass it up).
Same story in '04 when I bought my first Dodge (QC Hemi).
When I went looking for the Diesel I only did Internet research on the Chev (Isuzu). Maybe GM has to finally face the fact that the competition has caught them and is in full passing mode.
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Old Jul 16, 2006 | 08:30 PM
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There is a rason that Cummins engines are found in most of the worlds yachts.Power,& reliability.They run them up to 425 BHP.now,& will waranty comercial up to 360 BHP.An engine that makes 300 hp.@ 3000 rpm will allways out last an engine that makes 300 hp @3500 rpm.& BTW a marine engine is run as if it's climbing a steep grade pulling the weight of the boat,& the weight of the water at the same time.Go with the Cummins.
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Old Jul 21, 2006 | 01:25 AM
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drive all three, choose the truck that feels the most super!

Originally Posted by 04 Diesel
Duracrap is an Isuzu moter, the Cummins is made in Indiana. U.S.A.
the duracrap is made in moraine, ohio

only foreign parts are the HPCR fuel inj system (bosch/german), air conditioning compressor (used to be delco, but now denso/japan), the frame (canada), bose stereo amplifier (mexico), and the HVAC controller (mexico)

anyway, theres no denying the cummins is an awesome engine. Any powerstroke or duramax guy that says their engines are much better than the cummins does not have their head screwed on straight. Ill admit that any day of the week because it is true. With that being said, I do feel that the duramax is a solid A-/B+ engine, with the cummins being an A+. Its had some initial teething problems(injectors), but it is a new engine, and hopefully in the long run it will prove to be a "viable alternative" to the cummins.

I chose my truck because I (flame suit on) like GM trucks first off, and second off wanted a diesel; I didnt chose my truck for the duramax. The duramax was the diesel that was offered in the GM's, so it was my only option. Ive had good luck with mine, only problem was the ECM started acting wierd around 12,000 miles, replaced under warrantee. Never left me stranded tho. I dunno, the truck does what I need it to do without complaining, so in my eyes that makes it a reliable truck that I am happy with. I have complaints, everyone does about every truck; small fuel tank, silly stock tires, a retarded memory-position seat... Is everyone going to have the same luck as me? Who knows. To be honest, I always just kind of roll my eyes whenever I see this question, for obvious reasons. If someone asks me personally, the only thing I tell them is "my truck has been good to me and im happy with it". Does it mean they should take that advice and go out and buy a GM? No, not at all. If you let other people make your decisions and choose the truck for you based on THEIR oppinions and experiences, then IMO, you will never truely be happy with your truck and you'll be looking for excuses/small problems to trade it for the truck you "truely" wanted in the first place. Its like If, say for example I always had a "thing" for Dodge's, and talked to 100 people and 95 of them said "nah Ford is the way to go!!! Fords are the best!". So I tenatively take this blind advice and go buy a Ford. I drive it and try to like it because everyone said it was so good, but that little voice in the back of my head is still nagging at me with the "what if you bought a Dodge" or something like that. So then I start to become less and less satisfied with the Ford and try to think of excuses to get rid of it and get what I really wanted all along. Then one day the headlight on the Ford burns out. OH! AN EASY WAY OUT! HOLY CRAP!!! JUNK TRUCK GOTTA TRADE!!! MAYBE ILL TRADE IT FOR A DODGE!!!!

IFS vs SFA, again, oppinion. As said, if you are actually going to use a lift for its intended purpose (not a show truck), dont bother with IFS. Left at stock height I feel it is up to the task of HD truck duty, towing etc. I dont intend to off road my truck other than going to jobsites etc, so for the majority of onroad daily driving and towing, it suits me. I will say the stock tie rods are horribly inadequate and a mistake in terms of design. They are honestly no bigger than my finger. I sleeved mine so I feel a little better tho.

frames: all of the big three have equally strong HD frames IMO, shouldnt really be a concern. The Chevy stock hitch could be bigger, but I dont think id tow more than 12,000 pounds without the GN anyway.

rumors: headgasket problems!! --- not an issue, as silly as the aluminum heads seem, they have not caused any problems
japanese isuzu crap --- c'mon guys world war II is over, Isuzu has had some good diesels over the years

If someone put a gun to your head and said CHOOSE AN HD PICKUP!!! make note of the truck that you involuntarrilly blurt out, and go down to the dealer and buy THAT truck. Whatever it may be, you'll be happy with it!

and also just remember, they're all mechanical devices; they can and will fail when you need them most

-ben

btw the "rod" pictures are not of duramax rods; im not sure what they are (maybe a 6.5 rod?) but they are definetly not dmax rods. The cummins rods are still bigger with a thicker beam regardless tho
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Old Jul 21, 2006 | 07:24 AM
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I've got an 06 Dmax and an 06 Dodge, both 4x4, Chevy crew, Dodge Quad, both short. Both real nice trucks. Dura wins in a race, and MPG. Dodge feels more solid, and Chevy feels like a sports car. Love the seats in the Chevy. Love all the storage in a Dodge. Drive them both, and buy them both Dura is the wifes ride, Dodge is mine.
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Old Jul 21, 2006 | 08:08 AM
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I don't care how much power the Chevy makes.... if I had to chance that the truck would be in the shop as often as my last four chevy's, I would buy my Dodge again.... and again.... and again.
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