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Old 02-23-2010, 06:22 PM
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That E-Z drain is pretty compact (low profile)....
Old 02-23-2010, 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Polarlys
Thanks MattK. You beat me to it. I was just looking at Geno's on line and was about to ask about the ez-drain. I like the fact that it is low profile so it doesn't stick down below the pan. Like the others it's probably just being paranoid but I hesistate to put one in that sticks any lower than necessary. The only thing I don't like about it is you have to have the outside half to use it. If you lose the outter part your stuck. But I do like it.

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Not to mentio that it already costs like 35 buck plus you still have to purchase the drain side of it for another 15. But it does seem better than having the Fumoto hanging down. I may just try the Fumoto and stop being so paranoid but man I just worry about those things because if I didn't have bad luck, I wouldn't have any luck at all.
Old 02-23-2010, 06:36 PM
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I’ve used those pumps on automatic transmissions with no drain plug….seemed to work fine, but the CTD drain plug is easy to get at any no jacks are needed, so I’ve never needed it there.
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I was worried about the drain hanging down too. I didn't have the valve on my last 2 trucks because I was worried about it. Now I'm getting older and lazier. Lazy finally won and I got the valve and love it! Unless you back over an obstruction, you would have to tear out the front axle before you could get to the valve.......

Oh and Roger, I am originally from Somerset, NJ I was born and raised there.
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Unless you back over an obstruction, you would have to tear out the front axle before you could get to the valve.......
Not all the time. This week end my right side of my truck got sucked into a very large rut from the dirt being washed out from rain. I saw where something was dug into the dirt and it wasnt my front diff.
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Originally Posted by Polarlys
Hi, I've never seen it discussed here in the forum but I'm curious if anyone has tried the suction method for oil changes. I was browsing the Northern Tool catalogue today and was looking at a vacume pump/suction system for pulling old oil out through the dipstick tube. Curious if anyone here in the forums has tried it. I used to have an older Mercedes and on the MB forums these things were pretty common and well liked. Don't know if they've caught on here though. Someone had even done a test and found that they drew out every bit as much old oil as the normal drain methods with lots less fuss and muss. The one I was looking at held 3.5 gal so would cover the crankcase volume for our diesels.

Appreciate anyone interested in sharing their thoughts on this subject.

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Roger in NJ
Roger,
I'm planning on putting on a Fumoto valve at next oil change. should be in a few weeks. I'm just in Neshanic, let me know if you want to check it out when done.
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Originally Posted by bansh-eman
I like the idea of the drain valves, but I am paranoid that it will get broke off. I have a small ding on my oil pan already from the sand dunes. I would have a heart attack if that thing hungup on something at the deerlease 4 hours from home and broke off!

Me too, pulling the drain plug is not that big a deal and I doubt sucking the oil out would get the dirty stuff at the bottom of the pan.
Old 02-24-2010, 08:52 AM
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Well, I got the hint and ordered one of the fumoto's. I really wasn't supporting the suction method. Just curious. I was also afraid that it would leave some soot / sludge behind. Not sure I would like to take the chance on that one. I also like to get down under now and then to take a looksee and make sure all is where it's supposed to be. Like most people I would need an excuse to do that too. So even having to climb down there to throw a valve gives me that opportunity.

Thanks all for your input. I appreciate all your thoughts.

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Roger in Somerset, NJ
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Originally Posted by NickBeek
I got mine from Genos Garage. Check the store here they might have them as well. Yes they are a direct replacement. They stick down about an inch or so, but they are behind the front axle, so you would have bigger problems if you tore it off on an obstruction. BTW, you can get them with or without the nipple on them. I went with the nipple as it makes it easier to hit the jug when draining, plus you have somewhere to connect a hose if you are really worried about aim.
Unless you have a level kit the bottom of the oil pan is only about 1/4-1/2" above the bottom of the axle.. One of those things is just asking to get ripped off.
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You gentlemen that already have the Fumoto valve, 104N, the one with the nipple. On the website it looks like the nipple is treaded in. is that so and can you back it out when not in use? I tried to call Lubricationspecialists.com but they had already left the office and got a guy on his cell phone....said to call back in the AM...he he.
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I like the Finger Touch drain, that is after you take the nipple off of it.
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I have the Fumoto valve. I have never had a problem or worried about ripping it off. I have 100% faith in the valve and the one in a thousand shot that it would rip out. At worst it may bend.
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I use a Pela 6000 oil extractor on my 2003 Jetta TDI wagon for oil changes. I actually get more oil out with the Pela than draining the oil with the drain plug. On my truck I have an EZ CHANGE DRAIN PLUG form Genos Garage. Works excellent. http://www.genosgarage.com/prodinfo....Z-DP-22MMPL-DG
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Try this www.drainplug.co.uk/index.html we use them on tractors and semi's and i think they make a low pro for pickups. If you are close to a John Deere they deel in them. They are a bit more $$$ than the rest but I have never had a prob with any of the 6 on our place.
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Originally Posted by Angelo C
You gentlemen that already have the Fumoto valve, 104N, the one with the nipple. On the website it looks like the nipple is treaded in. is that so and can you back it out when not in use? I tried to call Lubricationspecialists.com but they had already left the office and got a guy on his cell phone....said to call back in the AM...he he.

The threaded end is the part that screws into the oil pan where the stock plug is.

I'll try to snap a couple pics today to show you.


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