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Old Jun 30, 2006 | 12:06 PM
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3rd Gen MUST READ!

I have heard that some 2006 models are having diesel fuel leak into the oil. I spoke to a freind at the dealership and I guess they have had 3 blow ups this month. All you need to do is check your oil often and make sure it isnt really high on the dipstick, also it will smell like diesel. I don't want to scare anyone but I figure if one person catches this then it is worth the post.
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Old Jun 30, 2006 | 09:01 PM
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Thanks for the info! I will be checking mine here in a couple of hours. Good thing about that is at least you know that there will be a new engine in there. And the money will be coming out of there pocket!
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Old Jun 30, 2006 | 09:28 PM
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I would rather let it blow and have warranty send you a new engine.
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Old Jul 1, 2006 | 04:35 AM
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Any mention of the CAUSE?
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Old Jul 1, 2006 | 10:55 AM
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Thanks for the INFO, I will be checking my out this morning!!!!
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Old Jul 1, 2006 | 11:16 AM
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Let er blow. that's why i bought a new truck for the warranty. if it throws somethin through the fender oh well they can fix it also. but thanks for the warning.
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Old Jul 1, 2006 | 11:29 AM
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heaven forbid that you check your engine before it blows. I would rather let it blow and let the next guy pay for the motor repair in the form of msrp.
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Old Jul 1, 2006 | 05:13 PM
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I was told what was causing it I just can't remember, I agree on the warranty comments.
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Old Jul 1, 2006 | 11:57 PM
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There is no way in Hades I would want to let my engine blow so some possibly under-qualified mechanic can get in there and start monkeying around and possibly screw something seriously up. Not to mention the down time for the replacement. What happens if you lose the engine at 75 mph? 7,000 lbs of truck may not be that easy to control and bring to a safe stop. That's not a liability that I would be willing to take.

Obviously, sounds like a bad run of injectors or the parts/software that control them. Do us all a favor and fix the problem, if it appears, before it blows.
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Old Jul 2, 2006 | 01:09 AM
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To all of you er's. There is a problem. Who's problem is it? We the owners, or the manufactures?

I paid 40K+ for this truck. For that price it should come with no built in problems. And for those built in problems, I will gladly let dodge pay for the truck to be fixed.

As the lame saying's go, "If you play, you pay" also "You are your own warranty station"(what ever that is). In this case we are not playing, therefore dodge should be paying, which makes them the "warranty station".

I have a lot of pride in my truck. I change the oil and fuel filter every 2500/3000 miles, not 7500 miles. I keep track of what I do and when I do it. I will be able to tell when diesel starts getting into the oil.And when it does I will make note of it along with letting dodge know. And will send in a oil sample to document the fuel in the oil.

And dodge will fix it on their dime, not mine.
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Old Jul 2, 2006 | 08:10 AM
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As an aside I would think that a platform where warranty issues could pool information and complaints would be benificial.

I think some things would move to recall status sooner if everyone experiencing a similar problem would send letters outlining it to DC and any watchdog groups that help furthur these claims. There would be a general similarity in the language, helping keep the message streamlined.

The KDP problem on early CTD's is one example were DC or Cummins should have brought in all those motors and tabbed the pins. If we as a group had raised a fuss I think they would have. What I mean by a group is that all the complaints get filed.
When each of us has a problem many of us just fix it or don't bother to send complaints beyond the dealer, which dilutes the power of those who do raise a fuss.
Any thoughts on this?

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Old Jul 2, 2006 | 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by phloop

I have a lot of pride in my truck. I change the oil and fuel filter every 2500/3000 miles, not 7500 miles.
With all due respect...why? Unless you are only driving your CTD 5-6k a year, it is a waste of oil, and a reason why oil/fuel prices are on the rise. If I did what you did I would change my oil 9 more times per year (45k miles per year). With oil filter and fuel filter, it would cost me an extra $450 to maintain my truck anually and waste 27 gallons of oil.

JMO, but you should spend the money on oil sampling instead of oil and filters.

As to the fuel in oil issue, there have been a few posts about this. It is not specific to the 2006 model, and most people have reported it being caused by an injector that is stuck open for whatever reason.
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Old Jul 2, 2006 | 01:59 PM
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yeah you all could let er' blow, but you know how your rig will be once dodge gets under the hood! it will be a problem child for ever after that!
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Old Jul 3, 2006 | 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by phloop
To all of you er's. There is a problem. Who's problem is it? We the owners, or the manufactures?

I paid 40K+ for this truck. For that price it should come with no built in problems. And for those built in problems, I will gladly let dodge pay for the truck to be fixed.

As the lame saying's go, "If you play, you pay" also "You are your own warranty station"(what ever that is). In this case we are not playing, therefore dodge should be paying, which makes them the "warranty station".

I have a lot of pride in my truck. I change the oil and fuel filter every 2500/3000 miles, not 7500 miles. I keep track of what I do and when I do it. I will be able to tell when diesel starts getting into the oil.And when it does I will make note of it along with letting dodge know. And will send in a oil sample to document the fuel in the oil.

And dodge will fix it on their dime, not mine.
Who's saying Dodge shouldn't pay for the fix? No one. Dodge should rightfully pay for the fix. And if the engine blows without warning, Dodge should pay for that too. If you know that your injectors are pumping diesel into your crankcase, and you take the, "I'll just let it go until it blows." approach, excuse me but that's just irresponsible. That's probably still Dodge's problem, but come now. Do that and we'll all be paying in the future in higher truck prices. It always comes back to us. Believe me, they won't take it out of their bottom line, they'll take it out of ours.
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Old Jul 3, 2006 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by phloop
To all of you er's. There is a problem. Who's problem is it? We the owners, or the manufactures?
I'd say it's yours until you make it the manufacturers.

I paid 40K+ for this truck. For that price it should come with no built in problems. And for those built in problems, I will gladly let dodge pay for the truck to be fixed.
I pay over $100,000.00 for class 8 trucks and they come with problems. That's why the manufacturers have a warranty program.

I will be able to tell when diesel starts getting into the oil.
Better start checking the oil every day. You'd be surprised how much diesel can pump into the oil pan in a day.

And dodge will fix it on their dime, not mine.
I'm sure they won't have a problem with that as long as you are within the 100,000 mile warranty. After that, you'd better trade for a new one.
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