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Old Nov 21, 2007 | 09:36 PM
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2 Stroke oil

What are the advantages of running this in with the diesel.
What does it do?
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Old Nov 22, 2007 | 12:17 AM
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for me it made my truck idle smoother and quieter, and my mileage is up 1.6 mpg!!! I put 16 oz per tank
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Old Nov 22, 2007 | 08:13 AM
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I use it on my 05, not so much for mileage but for lubrication that is removed using the ULSD fuel we now get.
I use the Wallyworld brand and put 32 oz per tank full.
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Old Nov 22, 2007 | 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by BBarnett
What are the advantages of running this in with the diesel.
What does it do?
Brian
1) I too would like to know/see factual proof.

2) Just to name a few and not to hijack your thread but, makes it harder to breathe, helps to deplete the ozone layer thus contributing to global warming, changes the weather and one day will kill us all and o'ya leaves a really cool black cloud behind your truck.


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Old Nov 23, 2007 | 08:21 AM
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The proof comes from thowing a quart in it at your next fill up. By the time you get back to the pump after paying, you will notice a definitive change in the amount of clatter coming from the front of the truck. You'll also notice less tremble when you get in. Then you'll see how much better milleage it gets on that tank. As for the global warming bull, you're smarter than that, right?? Don't you remember the 'global cooling' scare from the 70's and 80's? Funny how the same 'scientists' are now calling global warming. And wait, how old is the earth? How many years have we kept records? Statistics anyone?? 50 year repeating weather trends anyone? How do you take the temperature of the earth, all at once? Has the core temp increased, or just a slight trend in 'recent' temps on the surface? Hello? The ocean and valcanos put out more noxious gas in a year than man has in all time combined? Hello? Does anyone still do their own research and thinking, or does everone just listen to what they are told to believe by the network propagandists, I mean 'anchors'????????????????????


Now back to the two stoke post. Yes! It has helped a lot, although I'm wondering what it does to the fuel fluidity at low temps now that we've seen our first teen evening last night.

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Old Nov 23, 2007 | 11:49 AM
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Now back to the two stoke post. Yes! It has helped a lot, although I'm wondering what it does to the fuel fluidity at low temps now that we've seen our first teen evening last night.
From what I have read 2 stroke has an anti-gel in it and you don't need any anti-gel from another source. I'am not going to try it but do a search on (think this is his handle) moparman72. It's something like that.
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Old Nov 23, 2007 | 12:47 PM
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1 qt at fill up got me a quieter and smoother idle. Less rickety noise while accelerating also. My mileage did not improve, nor did it drop. It did however leave an oily sooty mess in my tailpipe and on the rear of the bed, instead of the usual dry sooty mess. I will use it again, but I will put less in the tank. We don't get dipped by the HP to often around here, but the blue fuel would probably raise an eyebrow.


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Old Nov 23, 2007 | 01:58 PM
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Why would that raise an eyebrow? Can't we put whatever additive we want into our own trucks?
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Old Nov 23, 2007 | 02:26 PM
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Why would that raise an eyebrow? Can't we put whatever additive we want into our own trucks?
Sure...as long as it's not red.....
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Old Nov 23, 2007 | 02:37 PM
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If it isn't yellow or red, you never know what the trooper may be thinking you're trying to cover up. JMO

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Old Nov 24, 2007 | 08:25 AM
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2007 5.9, owner's manual states on page 319 (don't know about any other prior years or the 07, 6.7 have yet to read it)

NOTE: In addition, commercially available fuel additives are not necessary for the proper operation of your Cummins Diesel equipped Dodge Ram Truck.

Below that it gives you the specs on #1 and #2 fuels.

In the diesel engine water is the enemy this is the problem which transforms into less lubrication remove the water (remove the problem) as much as possible with an additional fuel water separator filter system, our fuel that we use is filtered 2x after the underground storage tanks once at the pump, than at the fuel filter on the truck add an inline fuel/water seperator filtering system this is only logical for the concern of less lubrication, NOT MORE OIL, ? the very thing we are trying to use less of as well as the rest of our natural resources and again to be less dependent on others.
Water builds up as condensation in the underground storage tanks and blends with the fuel (depending how long it sits in the tank) you pump it into your truck with a higher water content than speced thus deluting the fuel again deluting the lubrication properties of the fuel.
By adding oil to the fuel you are getting greater carbon/soot residue build up thus clogging the pump/injectors as well as the valves with carbon deposits as well as help deplete the ozone layer which protects us from the ultraviolet and scorching rays of the fireball we call the sun etc...
Depending on your climate you operate in, lets pick cold ( the global cooling affect) you are asking the fuel pump to push a heavier liquid-the fuel the oil you added and the water which is now crystallizing into wax in your tank as well as the filter and then your POS pump fails then the owner says its the design of the product?
I myself have a transfer tank with a fuel/water separator filter on it and I drain it daily.

I am asking to see "actual proof" documentation or point me in the direction there of, that this engine needs additional oil in the fuel to increase lubrication as well as fuel mileage as some have stated not he said, she said, its quieter and does'nt clatter/tremble as much, buy a Porsche.
Heck man, diesel's are supposed to "SHAKE RATTLE AND ROLL" that's were the fun is.
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Old Nov 24, 2007 | 12:05 PM
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Wow, somebody needs to do some more research!
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Old Nov 24, 2007 | 12:26 PM
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used in snow mobiles

Originally Posted by BMH95
The proof comes from thowing a quart in it at your next fill up. By the time you get back to the pump after paying, you will notice a definitive change in the amount of clatter coming from the front of the truck. You'll also notice less tremble when you get in. Then you'll see how much better milleage it gets on that tank. As for the global warming bull, you're smarter than that, right?? Don't you remember the 'global cooling' scare from the 70's and 80's? Funny how the same 'scientists' are now calling global warming. And wait, how old is the earth? How many years have we kept records? Statistics anyone?? 50 year repeating weather trends anyone? How do you take the temperature of the earth, all at once? Has the core temp increased, or just a slight trend in 'recent' temps on the surface? Hello? The ocean and valcanos put out more noxious gas in a year than man has in all time combined? Hello? Does anyone still do their own research and thinking, or does everone just listen to what they are told to believe by the network propagandists, I mean 'anchors'????????????????????


Now back to the two stoke post. Yes! It has helped a lot, although I'm wondering what it does to the fuel fluidity at low temps now that we've seen our first teen evening last night.

They use it in snow mobiles so it must do well in cold weather, check the lubricity study done by Spicer, there are several post regarding that and how 2 cycle bio etc lubricate the fuel system.
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Old Nov 26, 2007 | 08:41 AM
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That's right, it is used on snowmobiles. I guess that would mean it stays nice and light if it's gotta go through an injection system at -20.
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Old Nov 26, 2007 | 09:12 AM
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I don't know if it's practical to compare a 2 cycle gas engine to a HPCR diesel engine.
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