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Old Jul 21, 2009 | 09:58 PM
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would you put diesel fuel in your transmission?
The sad part is that there probably are some that would do that.
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Old Jul 21, 2009 | 10:13 PM
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When changing fuel filter on my 01 should I go with "standard" or "high efficiency"?
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Old Jul 21, 2009 | 10:31 PM
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When changing fuel filter on my 01 should I go with "standard" or "high efficiency"?
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Old Jul 21, 2009 | 11:24 PM
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http://www.kensperformancesolutions....d_Filters.html
10 or 7 micron?
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Old Jul 22, 2009 | 09:22 AM
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The Cummins house here doesnt carry both versions (at least not on the shelf).

I believe the 10 micron one is the OEM part. Either one should work fine.
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Old Jul 22, 2009 | 09:56 AM
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Yall say dont put ATF in but why do so many people do it. All it is is a lubricant. WMO was not made to burn either but you still can mix it with fuel with no side effects. In fact it adds lubricaty back to the fuel.

On the trucks i used to work on we filled the filters with ATF everytime we changed filters. 12 petes w cats and detroits in the fleet and never had a problem. Also the boss had us do it on his 1tons.
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Old Jul 22, 2009 | 11:10 AM
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Yall say dont put ATF in but why do so many people do it. All it is is a lubricant. WMO was not made to burn either but you still can mix it with fuel with no side effects. In fact it adds lubricaty back to the fuel.

On the trucks i used to work on we filled the filters with ATF everytime we changed filters. 12 petes w cats and detroits in the fleet and never had a problem. Also the boss had us do it on his 1tons.
ATF is a lubricant??

The formulation of ATF has drastically changed with the advent of newer vehicles. Just because "mechanics" used to do it 20 years ago - doesnt mean that its good practice today.

There is a big difference between ATF and WVO. ATF has a lot of components..most of which are not meant to be burned, not to mention the wear those components have on the very tight tolerances of an injector pump.

You should check this out:

Modern ATF typically contains a wide variety of chemical compounds intended to provide the required properties of a particular ATF specification. Most ATFs contain some combination of rust preventatives, anti-foam additives, detergents, dispersants, anti-wear additives, anti-oxidation compounds, surfactants, cold-flow improvers, high-temperature thickeners, gasket conditioners, and petroleum dye.


ATF is sometimes added to the fuel tank of diesel engines to lubricate and clean internal fuel system components like injection pumps and injector nozzles. However the legality of this is questionable, as are the benefits to the fuel system. There are a variety of tested and approved diesel fuel treatment products on the retail market to perform this cleaning process.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automat...smission_fluid
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Old Jul 22, 2009 | 11:19 AM
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They say the benefits are questionable. I had heard this but I did a Unscientific test on my own by using a off the shelf cleaner (dieselkleen) on one filter change and the ATF on the next. Guess what i noticed that after puting the ATF in it ran better.

As far as all the reseach that has been done on it i still trust the mechanics that use it because the know what actually works. Real world vs. theoretical
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Old Jul 22, 2009 | 11:23 AM
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correct and i was just putting the option out there.

Also if you want to get technically the dye in farm diesel will wear tight tolenaces but i know plenty of cummins w/p pumps in case tractors that have never been replaced
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Old Jul 22, 2009 | 11:24 AM
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Im really getting an edumication today.
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Old Jul 22, 2009 | 11:34 AM
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Also in saying all this that things that may work down here may not work where you are at but the way to learn is through experimentation
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Old Jul 22, 2009 | 03:31 PM
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ATF has friction modifiers in it to improve shifting in automatic transmissions....... try filling your trans with with 10w and decide what you want going through your VP44
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Old Jul 22, 2009 | 06:56 PM
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Using ATF is an out of date practice from the days when auto tranny fluid was just light oil.
It's mostly recommended by old timers who don't know any better.
Modern ATF is 75% non petroleum additives many of which don't burn.
What happens is the unburnt additives leave ash in your cylinders.
Many of these ashes are highly abrasive, not good at all for cylinders and rings.
You might be better off adding sand to your fuel rather than ATF.
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Old Jul 22, 2009 | 11:00 PM
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I agree. Don't use the ATF. I understand that 2 stroke oil is good to use in the tank. I use lucas, and dieselkleen-the silver bottle with slick diesel in it. The combination works great on my truck. Although, I never filled the fuel filter canister with anything other than diesel. I always bump the starter and let the fuel pump fill the canister while pushing on the button in the center of the fitting that you can hook a fuel pressure gage to on the canister. I forget what those fittings are called. I don't know if your year truck has this. Mine doesn't anymore and i end up leaving the lid loose on the filter housing,bumping the starter and when fuel starts going all over the place I tighten the lid down. As for pulling the water separator drain thing, it drains everything out of the fuel filter canister. I do this to empty the canister and remove any water. Then make sure the canister is clean. I had a dealer put on a new vp44 and new lift pump who never checked the filter. It was full of brass looking junk from the bad lift pump. Also make sure you push the drain plunger back in. They tend to stick up and when you bump the starter you are draining the fuel filter canister at the same time you are trying to fill it....learned from experience. Not hard to do. Good luck
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Old Jul 24, 2009 | 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr. Evil
The Cummins house here doesnt carry both versions (at least not on the shelf).

I believe the 10 micron one is the OEM part. Either one should work fine.
do they come with o-ring/gasket, doesn't say on website.
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