VP44 is Alive!
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VP44 is Alive!
If you read my previous post, I tried to hook up a Walbro without a regulator or return, I guess I didn't read deap enough
. Anyway, I already had the Walbro relocated to the frame rail and I didn't want to buy the regulator, so I went down to the local diesel repair shop and they sold me a Carter transfer pump for $200 and I put it on. It fired right up and the engine light and 0216 death code went off right away
. I have 12 lbs fuel at idle, 10 1/2 cruising at 60 and 8 1/2 at WOT and it seems to have pretty good power.I have seen as much as 20 lbs of boost, so I guess everything is ok then, right? While I was waiting for parts to get here I put some some Marvel Mystery oil and Power Service mix in the fuel filter and let it run until it got in the VP44 and then I let it soak for 2 days. It may not have helped, but I don't see how it could have hurt. Thanks for all of your input, i could never have accomplished this without all the great information on this site
. Anyway, I already had the Walbro relocated to the frame rail and I didn't want to buy the regulator, so I went down to the local diesel repair shop and they sold me a Carter transfer pump for $200 and I put it on. It fired right up and the engine light and 0216 death code went off right away. I have 12 lbs fuel at idle, 10 1/2 cruising at 60 and 8 1/2 at WOT and it seems to have pretty good power.I have seen as much as 20 lbs of boost, so I guess everything is ok then, right? While I was waiting for parts to get here I put some some Marvel Mystery oil and Power Service mix in the fuel filter and let it run until it got in the VP44 and then I let it soak for 2 days. It may not have helped, but I don't see how it could have hurt. Thanks for all of your input, i could never have accomplished this without all the great information on this site
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The P0216 code is for injection pump timing failure. This is a hard code that cannot be reset without and code reading computer. It also indicates that you injection pump needs to be replaced unless you can get that code to reset and NOT reappear. Just had my injection pump replaced yesterday for the very reason. Depending upon what month your truck was purchased or put into service when new the engine and injector pump replacement IS covered under Diamler Chrysler warranty. I just had mine replaced under warranty. I purchased my truck in September of 2002 so my warranty was still valid on time since I have a little over 50,000 miles on the truck. If you have more than 100,000 miles on your truck, the warranty is expired on mileage.
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I drove it 80 miles yesterday in 110 degree heat and nothing has popped up so far. I will hook up the boat to it today and take it to a grade and see how it does. I took my truck to the dealer and he said it was over the 5 year mark, by one month, so I replace the lift pump at my expense, i didn't want that crappy in-tank pump. I have heard that the Cummins warranty starts once the Dodge warranty ends, I hope this is true, in case the IP is starting to die, but i have never had dead pedal.
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The P0216 code is due to the weak lift pump and low fuel pressure over a period of time causing rupture the diaphragm in the front of the injection pump and the timing piston which then vibrates and wears the housing of the pump until fuel bypasses the piston and full advance can no longer be attained. When full advance can't be attained for more than 5 seconds the code 216 is set. This in and of itself does not cause serious drivability issues.
The injection pump computer circuit board deteriorating over time from corrosion, heat, and finally poor connections cause the "dead pedal", stumbling, or hesitate under part throttle acceleration.
When and if the injection pump rotor seizes up is when the engine dies and so does the injector pump for keeps.
If warranty is not going to cover a new injector pump, I would continue to drive your truck bearing in mind that it could break down at any and more probably the worst possible time. You pump may last for years or it may last for days or hours once the P0216 code is set.
Depending upon how important reliability is to you, it would be your call as to when you decide to replace the pump.
Bottom line is that the injector pump will likely deteriorate in it performance steadily over time until it finally craps out. Hopefully you can get more use from it.
In my case, over a period of a month, the dead pedal and stumbling gradually got worse until it became very noticable to me and I had the pump replace while I still had warranty to do it. Otherwise I would have driven it until the symptoms became much worse and then replaced it.
Ask you dealer if they will reset the codes for you. You may luck out and the P0216 code may reset and not come back (unlikely) and you can drive on.
Sorry to hear about your bad luck and the warranty being out by one month. You might try asking the dealer to contact DC and asking them to cover replacement of your injector pump under a "good will" coverage warranty. You may have to pay a little more than under the vehicle warranty but still FAR cheaper than paying the entire cost. Good luck with it.
The injection pump computer circuit board deteriorating over time from corrosion, heat, and finally poor connections cause the "dead pedal", stumbling, or hesitate under part throttle acceleration.
When and if the injection pump rotor seizes up is when the engine dies and so does the injector pump for keeps.
If warranty is not going to cover a new injector pump, I would continue to drive your truck bearing in mind that it could break down at any and more probably the worst possible time. You pump may last for years or it may last for days or hours once the P0216 code is set.
Depending upon how important reliability is to you, it would be your call as to when you decide to replace the pump.
Bottom line is that the injector pump will likely deteriorate in it performance steadily over time until it finally craps out. Hopefully you can get more use from it.
In my case, over a period of a month, the dead pedal and stumbling gradually got worse until it became very noticable to me and I had the pump replace while I still had warranty to do it. Otherwise I would have driven it until the symptoms became much worse and then replaced it.
Ask you dealer if they will reset the codes for you. You may luck out and the P0216 code may reset and not come back (unlikely) and you can drive on.
Sorry to hear about your bad luck and the warranty being out by one month. You might try asking the dealer to contact DC and asking them to cover replacement of your injector pump under a "good will" coverage warranty. You may have to pay a little more than under the vehicle warranty but still FAR cheaper than paying the entire cost. Good luck with it.
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Thanks! I guess I was too hasty in my being happy, the code (0216) just came back, with another one, 0230, which I can't find anywhere. I still have no driveability issues, except it seems like it takes a long time to get going when you floor it from a dead stop.
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I wonder what that means. My wife is going to take it to the dealer and rake then over the coals. She can't understand why it would be out of warranty because when we bought it the big selling point was it had a 7 year 100,000 mile warranty for the drivetrain. Well, isn't the engine part of the drivetrain? I am thinking seriously about buying something else
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