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A moment of silence for Shovelhead,,,,,,,

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Old 12-28-2005, 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Brock
okay, another newbie question...what is VP44 and what causes them to start failing and do I need to worry with my new 06? Everytime I learn something...you guys raise the bar higher for me again....
Have no fear, you don't have one. You also have about 90 HP more than us guys with no modifications.

Check back in about 2010, everyone here will be complaining about those junk 06' Rams and all their problems.
Usually what causes them to fail is the even more failure prone "lift" pump that supplies the injection pump (aka VP44). It dies and starves the VP and next thing you know you are stuck in Virgina somewhere.
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Geeeeez. I thought Shovel died or something.

Actually, I was thinking of applying for the "open" Admin job.
SAME HERE...I was like SWEEET, Eds Outtta the picture
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Originally Posted by Shovelhead
I'm Baaaaack. :
(About 83,000 miles on the pump)
As Dennis said, pulled away from a light accelerating (about 3/4 throttle) truck just nosed over like somebody turned off a light switch.
Crossed 3 lanes of traffic coasting (engine seemed to be barely idling as I still had steering) to pull off on an exit ramp.
Turns over fine, will not even cough like it wants to start.
Looks like Wifey's Landcruiser will be the vehicle of choice for a few days.......
On the bright side (if there can be one......)
The weather was in the 50s and clear, traffic was far enough behind that the "3 lane dive" was performed safely, the steering seemed to be assisted until I got over to the curb.
The Tow truck was an International Roll-back (Thank goodness NOT a Ford)
And most of all ....Wifey wasn't too ticked off.
(she even brought me a thermos of coffee)

NOW, to go shopping for a VP.

Thanks for all the kind sympathy.
It is definately appreciated.



lucky you...when I got towed it was a ford PSD...I wanted to send him away and tell him I was fine
Old 12-28-2005, 08:46 PM
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Hey, Ed,
did you notice if you had a Check Engine Light? and if so, let us know if any codes are there.

Being that mine died with nary a code thrown, curious as to what gets thrown, if anything, on a tapped wire VP44 death.


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what did you get for codes or do you know yet?


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Old 12-28-2005, 08:56 PM
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That's the weird part...
NO Check Engine light.
All looks/acts normal. It just won't start.
Still shows 16 SOLID psi of fuel pressure.
The '99s don't have the key-on-key-off feature.
I'll need to borrow a ODB II reader from the fleet mechanics at work to look for codes.

After waiting for 3 hours, I'd have settled for a Yugo powered tow truck.
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There are a few guys that reported no codes or MIL I find it interesting how they all go in different ways, one thing for sure if it is the orginal pump it served you well.

I got the 0216 and I drove her for as long as she would go, until I had to take the 5er for a holiday then a wimped out and changed it for a happy trip....wife

phox you must have posted a milisecond before me on the codes
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BTW, anyone got a good link to a "How to change your Injection Pump" site?

First BigBlue takes "Top Poster", then this, then I find out there's a waiting list to take my job.........what's next?.......
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With 185K on my VP-44 I keep this baby in my favorites!

http://www.nwbombers.com/membersites/kent/vp44.html
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Originally Posted by Geico266
With 185K on my VP-44 I keep this baby in my favorites!

http://www.nwbombers.com/membersites/kent/vp44.html
EXCELLENT!
Thanks, just added it to "FAVORITES"
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I saw "wrecker" and I got a weird feeling, thank goodness it was only the pump and not the whole truck. Good luck w/ the swap.
Old 12-28-2005, 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Shovelhead
First BigBlue takes "Top Poster", then this, then I find out there's a waiting list to take my job.........what's next?.......
Hey Ed,,,,,
Don't you have a #53 block also?

NEVER,,,,, NEVER,,,,,, NEVER EVER say what's next?
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ok not being a vp44 guy. have they taken care of the inherent problems in the rebuilt/new pumps or are you going to eventually have the same problem?
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Originally Posted by Mopar1973man
Oh Rattlin'... It's only called a wrecker when there is a wreck... Shovelhead is only broke down... Then its a tow truck...
So if he was only "broke" down,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, shouldn't he have called a Broker? Plus, he didn't have it towed,,,,,, it was a roll-back that came to the rescue,,,,,,,,,, so I guess that means he called a Roller.

Sorry Ed,,,, I'll get back on topic and I'm not finding humor in your bad luck,,,,,, I'm just trying to prepare myself for when its my turn. Over 105k on the clock now and it don't exactly get babied!
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Originally Posted by phox_mulder
Hey, Ed,
did you notice if you had a Check Engine Light? and if so, let us know if any codes are there.

Being that mine died with nary a code thrown, curious as to what gets thrown, if anything, on a tapped wire VP44 death.


phox
My pump went the same way, no CEL, lift pump was still pushing 14psi when trying to start. First run on 5x5 after having the box on for 2 months. Tokk it to the top of 4th gear and go to shift to 5th and nothing. Thought it was just a dead pedal until I depressed the clutch and no more noise. Now that I have it back and running, I'm a bit gun shy with the box..


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