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Old Nov 27, 2003 | 09:17 PM
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KDP a problem ???

I hear about this KDP in the 12V forum. Is the KDP a problem in the 24V engines or did Cummins fix it? Any information would be appreciated.
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Old Nov 27, 2003 | 09:20 PM
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Re:KDP a problem ???

I have heard that some of the early 24v motors did have the KDP. I have not seen this with my own eyes yet.
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Old Nov 27, 2003 | 09:24 PM
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Re:KDP a problem ???

From what Ive heard and read, the design wasnt changed until after 2000 model year
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Old Nov 28, 2003 | 01:03 AM
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Re:KDP a problem ???

If you are 99 or lower just fix it. It doesn't hurt and you can sleep easier.
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Old Nov 28, 2003 | 06:20 AM
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Re:KDP a problem ???

Would someone give me the lo-down on this KDP thing !!!!

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Old Nov 28, 2003 | 08:17 AM
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Re:KDP a problem ???

Killer Dowel Pin. The KDP thread in the 12V forum gives a good back ground. This thread on TDR gives detailed information on the pin and how to replace it.
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Old Nov 28, 2003 | 12:00 PM
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Re:KDP a problem ???

[quote author=Dr. Evil link=board=4;threadid=22947;start=0#msg215076 date=1069989869]
From what Ive heard and read, the design wasnt changed until after 2000 model year
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I'm not sure even Cummins knows when exactly the problems ended. There is a thread on TDR that shows a 2001 hd a KDP slipping out.

As above, I have not SEEN it, only read about it...
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Old Nov 28, 2003 | 12:04 PM
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[quote author=Ramflasher link=board=4;threadid=22947;start=0#msg215262 date=1070042404]
[quote author=Dr. Evil link=board=4;threadid=22947;start=0#msg215076 date=1069989869]
From what Ive heard and read, the design wasnt changed until after 2000 model year
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I'm not sure even Cummins knows when exactly the problems ended. There is a thread on TDR that shows a 2001 hd a KDP slipping out.

As above, I have not SEEN it, only read about it...
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Yeah, I think they probably used the old timing cases until there wasnt any left and then switched to the new case. I have a 2001 would hate to have KDP problems with it since it not really supposed to be an issue. ???
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Old Nov 29, 2003 | 09:36 PM
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Re:KDP a problem ???

I have a '99--truck was built 5/1, engine was built in 3/99...

I got on the jig list over on the TDR at was going to do the set screw method on mine, just for piece of mind. I hit the dowel pin drilling through the case, pulled the cover and the pin was 3/4 of the way out. I finished the repair, but I still believe its too easy of a fix to not do it on ANY 1st or 2nd Gen truck...I posted my findings over at the TDR, but I don't have any pictures of it. Sorry...

Dan-
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Old Dec 1, 2003 | 10:12 PM
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Re:KDP a problem ???

The engine build date of my 98.5 is early FEB 98.

My engine has the old style case. I tabbed the KDP about a week after my 5 year / 100k mile engine warranty expired. The pin moved about 1/16" before it bottomed out in the hole when I tapped it back in. The pin was snug, but it definately did not have an interference fit.

Here is my pin before the Tab Job.

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Old Dec 1, 2003 | 10:26 PM
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Re:KDP a problem ???

I'd always assumed that the KDP wasn't a problem in my '02 -- built in late January 2002. Or should I be concerned about left-over timing cases at that late date?
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Old Dec 2, 2003 | 12:15 AM
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[quote author=Tartarus link=board=4;threadid=22947;start=0#msg216752 date=1070339215]
I'd always assumed that the KDP wasn't a problem in my '02 -- built in late January 2002. Or should I be concerned about left-over timing cases at that late date?
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I think an 02 is pretty safe. I assume my 01 is.
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Old Jan 2, 2004 | 11:14 PM
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FYI......Just pulled the cover off a 99....Engine build date Nov 24,1998.
It had the updated housing....................
Don
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Old Jan 3, 2004 | 01:49 AM
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Heres another link:

https://www.dieseltruckresource.com/...threadid=25041
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Old Jan 3, 2004 | 07:46 AM
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Re: Re:KDP a problem ???

Originally posted by Barney
The engine build date of my 98.5 is early FEB 98.

My engine has the old style case.
Is there a way to tell if you have the old style case without pulling the cover?
Thanks for any info.
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