Installing new BHAF
Installing new BHAF
New BHAF was delivered this afternoon and plan to install it this weekend. Would like to have a surface to mount the filter minder on. Is there any problem with using one of the thick rubber reducers for drain systems as a connector between the turbo inlet hose and the BHAF in order to do this? Don't want to add something that could potentially damage the turbo.<br><br>CR
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What are you reducing? The NAPA 2790 and the Cummins filters should slide right on. (If you are reducing the turbo inlet hose side to fit a smaller filter outlet, then you're losing air and possibly raising EGT's -- and you've probably got the "wrong" filter.) If you need a short 4 inch to 4 inch section to slide into both and clamp down on, or to mount the filter-minder on, PVC is good material. But to my mind, the FM is a waste.
As for a surface -- I fabbed a one-piece, "L" shaped sheet of stainless steel to serve both as a mounting/shock-cushioning surface, and a heat shield. It bolted on to the already-existing stock airbox studs.
GP
As for a surface -- I fabbed a one-piece, "L" shaped sheet of stainless steel to serve both as a mounting/shock-cushioning surface, and a heat shield. It bolted on to the already-existing stock airbox studs.
GP
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I don't know about the Cummins, but the NAPA 2790 needs a 4"/3" pvc adaptor to make it fit. And it doesn't seem to restrict airflow at all. I've attached a pic of my installation-hope that this helps.
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(I really need to proofread my posts)
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I think the main gist of his question is where to remount the filter minder at<br><br>I saw a pic of someone's installation where they put a piece of PVC pipe between the filter and the hose, then drilled a hole (can't remember what size) and put the filter minder there.<br><br>I personally don't think you'll even need the minder since you can see pretty clearly when the BHAF is getting dirty.<br><br>The reasoning behind the stock filter minder is Dodge doesn't want you opening the air box to check the filter, as that breaks the seal and unless you reseal it properly, crap can get in there.<br><br><br>Hope this helps<br><br>phox
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That's real strange. I've got the NAPA 2790 installed on mine, and the turbo inlet hose slides over the hard-rubber filter outlet (tight fit) and clamps down nicely. No need for any adaptation. Calipered the outer and inner outlet dimensions at the store. It's definitely more than 3 inches. Some people like to have more rigidity in the connection, so they put a short peice of thin-walled 4 inch PVC pipe inside the filter outlet and the turbo hose inlet.
More air is better from what I've heard, but the 3 inch to 4 inch reduction wouldn't make a difference below high RPM's. But why would you want to reduce if you didn't have to?
The Cummins filter is identical to the NAPA filter I purchased (I've seen both).
I agree with Phox & Chuck3 on the filter minder.
GP
More air is better from what I've heard, but the 3 inch to 4 inch reduction wouldn't make a difference below high RPM's. But why would you want to reduce if you didn't have to?
The Cummins filter is identical to the NAPA filter I purchased (I've seen both).
I agree with Phox & Chuck3 on the filter minder.
GP
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Thanks for the input guys. Actually I didn't mean a reducer, but a 4" to 4" section like Gear Poet mentions. Need to proof read my posts too, I guess. I should have just asked if the filter minder is necessary on the BHAF, and sounds like it probably isn't.
One more question though. Is moisture from splashing rain, etc. a problem in the area of the BHAF? I've seen someone's post of a cover or prefilter, but to me that looks like it would reduce the air flow some and defeat the purpose of the BHAF, JMHO.
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One more question though. Is moisture from splashing rain, etc. a problem in the area of the BHAF? I've seen someone's post of a cover or prefilter, but to me that looks like it would reduce the air flow some and defeat the purpose of the BHAF, JMHO.
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Re:Installing new BHAF
When I get my BHAF I'm definately going to get the prefilter for it.<br>It doesn't cut down any on flow (not noticable by others who have it anyway) and not only keeps water off the filter, but fine fine dust as well.<br><br>Yes, some people have to put a piece of pvc, or other pipe into the neck of the filter to keep it from collapsing, cheap insurance in my opinion.<br><br>phox
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I've got the Baldwin PA2820, which is the same thing and my turbo hose fit snug on the filter inlet. I didn't use anything in between the two. I have checked it after running in the rain all day and never seen it wet yet. I don't have the pre-filter on mine yet, but will get one in the near future.
As far as the Filter-Minder,,,,,,,,, I had a guy that works on them tell me, "they weren't very accurate". Everyone that he had seen still read good when the filter should have been changed already.
As far as the Filter-Minder,,,,,,,,, I had a guy that works on them tell me, "they weren't very accurate". Everyone that he had seen still read good when the filter should have been changed already.
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My 2790 required no adapters. Same fit as noobie Gear Poet's. Man, what a bummer. Having to start all over with the stars.<br><br>I ran the question about the outerwear and got back two significant replies. 1. Stay out of high pressure car washes and 2. He got alot of snow packed up in there. He musta been doing alot of four wheeling. As far as I'm concerned, the jury is still out for the type of driving I do (around the town and some freeway). If you stick in the turbo shield, that'll help give the compartment some protection as well because it surrounds both the bottom and the side next to the turbo. I don't really see too much road spray getting up in there. If and when it ever starts to rain again in Washington, I'll be keeping a close eye on it. Definitely will advise the board of my results.<br><br>Ain't that one big filter?? It just fits in the compartment. By the way, those studs that are left after you take out the stock box are 10mm. You need to know that to get a couple of nuts to anchor the turbo shield down. <br><br>Dave
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Rub it in, Dave, rub it in!
<br><br>I would think you'd have more need for a prefilter on an oiled gauze filter like an AFE or a K&N -- than on a paper filter like the BHAF. I've driven in some real rainstorms around here over the last two weeks, and I've forded streams in Nevada. I've never noticed the filter getting wet, but then -- as you said -- the heatshield/mount probably helps. <br><br>One thing I don't like about the BHAF -- unlike the K&N, there's no wire screen *inside* the filter to beef it up -- just exposed paper. All that "wood" just hovering above a turbo impeller spinning at 100K RPM. . . .
<br><br>GP
<br><br>I would think you'd have more need for a prefilter on an oiled gauze filter like an AFE or a K&N -- than on a paper filter like the BHAF. I've driven in some real rainstorms around here over the last two weeks, and I've forded streams in Nevada. I've never noticed the filter getting wet, but then -- as you said -- the heatshield/mount probably helps. <br><br>One thing I don't like about the BHAF -- unlike the K&N, there's no wire screen *inside* the filter to beef it up -- just exposed paper. All that "wood" just hovering above a turbo impeller spinning at 100K RPM. . . .
<br><br>GP



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