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Old Apr 21, 2009 | 05:33 AM
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does 2 posts make a person not believable??
i can say the same about somebody with 859
And when you start selling snake oil on the here you will get the same response. No matter how many posts you have.

As for Danny T and his two posts, yes he is unbelievable. Do you think he is believable?????
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Old Apr 21, 2009 | 03:01 PM
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you dont type that much ******** and you dont make up that much ******** just as i believe carl i just dont think it was done right and was the right result i think his test was well done nothing against him i just think that the factors werent right.. as in most thing your not going to get the same result person to person canister to canister is he believeable with 2 post yes are you more believeable with your 860 no
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Old Apr 22, 2009 | 05:09 AM
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you dont type that much ******** and you dont make up that much ******** just as i believe carl i just dont think it was done right and was the right result i think his test was well done nothing against him i just think that the factors werent right.. as in most thing your not going to get the same result person to person canister to canister is he believeable with 2 post yes are you more believeable with your 860 no
Then by all means go for it. You got the answer you wanted to hear from Danny so go out and get the HHO system going and if you can prove the 20% he claims let me know and I will pay for your system.

Search the web for HHO systems and you will see thousands but not one advocated by a single engine manufacture. I guess they are just behind the curve.
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Old Apr 22, 2009 | 09:54 PM
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Then by all means go for it. You got the answer you wanted to hear from Danny so go out and get the HHO system going and if you can prove the 20% he claims let me know and I will pay for your system.

Search the web for HHO systems and you will see thousands but not one advocated by a single engine manufacture. I guess they are just behind the curve.
No no ive got a better idea when i find the system that works ill just send you one on me cause thats just the kind of guy i am
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Old Apr 23, 2009 | 05:01 PM
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More on Hydrogen

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It's always disappointing to see comments from folks afraid to post their real names taking pot shots at anything they don't understand. That's why I avoid commenting on these forums. They used to say that anyone driving an open vehicle over 30 mph would suck the air out of their lungs and die. Wish that were true for some of the skeptics and blow-hards but alas it's not.

Hydrogen injection from HHO generators is real or the truckers wouldn't
spend the money, South Korea wouldn't require them on all new fleet vehicles, etc.

Check out the HHO gas home furnace those guys from Idaho are giving out the design and building units.
Check out the HHO gas torches for sale, they work.
There is a national HHO gas generator manufacture's association.

For the one guy who asked, I drilled and installed the HHO gas line 3/8" hose to 3/4" threaded fitting into the air box before the filter. Have no issues with the intake heaters causing it to 'blow up".

The newest dry cell designs seem to work the best and HHO works best with diesel engines rather than modern gas engines that defeat the process without modifications to the smog controls that gets into federal laws and threats of punishment.
I'm sure that adding more HHO gas than my 12 plate drycell puts out would allow higher RPM mileage improvements as the commercial truck HHO gas generators are huge and put out many more liters per minute. They see huge percentage improvements like from 4 to 6 MPG rising to 6 to 8 MPG or translated for the redneck skeptics of over 50% increase in diesel mileage.
As for the comment I'm selling something where did that come from? My mention of Microlon? Is it a sin to point out another item that might help the forum members? No website posted just the actual facts of my personal success.
Have a 1992 all wheel drive Dodge Caravan with nearly 200,000 miles on it and with Microlon treatment is has survived multiple 1 to 2 hour drives of over 60 miles in summer heat with blown radiator hoses and no cooling water. Changed the oil each time and the engine is tight and uses no oil and gets over 28 MPG at 65+ MPH. Try that with your 5.9. I'm sold sorry your so skeptical, your loss.https://www.dieseltruckresource.com/...new1/duhhh.gif

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Old Apr 23, 2009 | 05:30 PM
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So why not buy a system that claims 40-50% gains? Plenty out there.
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Old Apr 23, 2009 | 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by CamperAndy
And when you start selling snake oil on the here you will get the same response. No matter how many posts you have.

As for Danny T and his two posts, yes he is unbelievable. Do you think he is believable?????
as believable as any thing else i read on this forum
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Old Apr 23, 2009 | 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Daniel Temple
Ithttps://www.dieseltruckresource.com/forums/images/smilies/new1/smashfreakB.gif's
It's always disappointing to see comments from folks afraid to post their real names taking pot shots at anything they don't understand. That's why I avoid commenting on these forums. They used to say that anyone driving an open vehicle over 30 mph would suck the air out of their lungs and die. Wish that were true for some of the skeptics and blow-hards but alas it's not.

Hydrogen injection from HHO generators is real or the truckers wouldn't
spend the money, South Korea wouldn't require them on all new fleet vehicles, etc.

Check out the HHO gas home furnace those guys from Idaho are giving out the design and building units.
Check out the HHO gas torches for sale, they work.
There is a national HHO gas generator manufacture's association.

For the one guy who asked, I drilled and installed the HHO gas line 3/8" hose to 3/4" threaded fitting into the air box before the filter. Have no issues with the intake heaters causing it to 'blow up".

The newest dry cell designs seem to work the best and HHO works best with diesel engines rather than modern gas engines that defeat the process without modifications to the smog controls that gets into federal laws and threats of punishment.
I'm sure that adding more HHO gas than my 12 plate drycell puts out would allow higher RPM mileage improvements as the commercial truck HHO gas generators are huge and put out many more liters per minute. They see huge percentage improvements like from 4 to 6 MPG rising to 6 to 8 MPG or translated for the redneck skeptics of over 50% increase in diesel mileage.
As for the comment I'm selling something where did that come from? My mention of Microlon? Is it a sin to point out another item that might help the forum members? No website posted just the actual facts of my personal success.
Have a 1992 all wheel drive Dodge Caravan with nearly 200,000 miles on it and with Microlon treatment is has survived multiple 1 to 2 hour drives of over 60 miles in summer heat with blown radiator hoses and no cooling water. Changed the oil each time and the engine is tight and uses no oil and gets over 28 MPG at 65+ MPH. Try that with your 5.9. I'm sold sorry your so skeptical, your loss.https://www.dieseltruckresource.com/...new1/duhhh.gif

Daniel
My Name is William Andrew Jackson and I do not beleive you, does that make you feel better? Your still selling snake oil.

Below is the math that estimates the required HHO flow for a 10 % increase.

Okay lets do some math just so it all helps the understanding of the problem, I am using rounded numbers a bit but just so you get the picture.

You get 10 mpg and you want a 1 mpg improvement, sounds easy right? We are going 60 mph so we burn 6 gallons an hour.

Well you have to effectively add the equivalent power that 1/10 (6/10 per hour) of a gallon of fuel would provide (more or less). We will use Diesel fuel which on average has 130,000 BTU per gallon so we need to add 13,000 btu's of energy to the mix or 78,000 btu an hour to get the 1 mpg increase.

78,000 btu's burned per hour equal 30.627 horsepower or 22,839 watts per hour.

Hydrogen at room temperature and pressure has an energy density of .01079 mj/l (mega joule/liter) and those 22,839 watts would require 82.222 mj of energy or are you sitting down - 7620 liters of pure hydrogen or just over 2.1 liters per second from the electrolysis system.

At that rate I have no need to see if the alternator can even come close to keeping up. I am sure I rounded a few numbers but not so much that it makes the data not valid.
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Old Apr 24, 2009 | 12:45 AM
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Selling HHO gas Snake oil??

Well you do have a fine name if it's really yours far better than camper andy.

But for the record Daniel Paul Temple aces your name out every time.

Now, Mr. BS authority, Who is selling anything?

As for you brilliant math study it's flawed because it's not about adding hydrogen to get more BTUs from the hydrogen so much as to what happens when it's present in sufficient amounts. If you would open your closed mind and study the literature, U-tube video lectures and latest finding on HHO gas and what is actually changed with the combustion event you find that the HHO gas is a "combustion enhancer" a catalyst of sorts for the combustion event and as to how the diesel ignites and more thoroughly burns the fuel. That's where the greater energy comes from and why limited HHO gas supplementation increases mileage and lowers emissions, but then that would spoil your black smoke burn-out "mines bigger than yours" stunts and we couldn't have that Andy. Based on your rig listing it appears you've got more money in add-ons than the truck is worth. Poor investiment as Pres.Obama plans on getting our "modified" rigs off the road. Wait till your trying burn-outs in your battery powered gold cart. Now that's BS!

Check the web and the HHO gas cutting torches and their weird properties of seemly low temp flame yet it cuts all metals and even masonry.

I've got 21 grand and great grandkids and have better things to do than waste time on camper andy. Just stumbled onto the site and saw the guy's questions about HHO gas and tried to share what I've learned.
I'll go away and let camper andy be "king of the world! look mom I'm King of the World" (James Cagney)
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Old Apr 24, 2009 | 04:38 AM
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Dan, all I can say is if you do not believe me when I tell you my name, then everything I say to you is falling on deaf ears, so you win. Just go out and make those HHO systems and fund your grand kids college fund with the money that will roll in. Just be prepared for them to be home schooled as you will not have much in the bank.
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