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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 03:05 PM
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Band Adjustment Question

Following these instructions: http://cumminsdatabase.com/read.php?id=55

I have a few questions that maybe someone could clarify.

It says torque the torx screw the 75lbs then back off 1 7/8th turns. Wouldn't this untorque what was just torqued?

How much ATF will I loose by dropping the pan to get to the rear band?

I have found that my local auto parts store (auto zone), only my transmission listed as a 47 rh not a 47re. Is there a difference in the two?

Is there any recommendations to which brand of transmission filter to use?
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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by 1998dsmtalon
Following these instructions: http://cumminsdatabase.com/read.php?id=55

I have a few questions that maybe someone could clarify.

It says torque the torx screw the 75lbs then back off 1 7/8th turns. Wouldn't this untorque what was just torqued?

How much ATF will I loose by dropping the pan to get to the rear band?

I have found that my local auto parts store (auto zone), only my transmission listed as a 47 rh not a 47re. Is there a difference in the two?

Is there any recommendations to which brand of transmission filter to use?
Yes... backing the screw off gives the assembly the proper slack to operate correctly.

All of it except for what's in your torque converter.

Yours is an 47re, yes there is a defference. E is for electronic.... H is for hydraulic. The older, non-computer controlled trans were H.

Not sure on the brand, but tell them you want a filter for a '96 2500 diesel truck. The element is a much better flowing design than the newer style crap that's probably in your '01 now. You will see the difference when you drop the pan.
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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 05:12 PM
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Awesome, thanks for the info.

How much ATF +4 should I be loading into my shopping cart?

I was going to by the pan gasket and filter set. Is the pan gasket the same in all 2gs?
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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by 1998dsmtalon
Awesome, thanks for the info.

How much ATF +4 should I be loading into my shopping cart?

I was going to by the pan gasket and filter set. Is the pan gasket the same in all 2gs?
None IMO.... I wouldn't touch that +4 junk if you offered me a lifetime supply. I use Dexron with a bottle of Lube Gaurd Red, but then again, my trans isn't stock.

727, 46R_, 47R_ .... no matter, they are all the same gasket. Just ask for a filter kit for a '96, it comes with the filter and a gasket.
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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 06:18 PM
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Thanks again!

But I am still trying to find out about how much fluid I am going to loose when dropping the pan.
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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 06:43 PM
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I don't know.... I have an oversized pan and I also drain the TC when I adj. bands/change fluid/change filter. So it will be different than the amount you'll lose.
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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 10:42 PM
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I think it's around 5 quarts or so.... I used the shadetree mechanic band adjustment and it works fine. Check here for more info on the tranny band adjustment from ATS:

TransmissionBandAdjustment.pdf
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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 10:43 PM
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just remember, inch pounds...not foot pounds.
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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 10:52 PM
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I would buy seven quarts just to be safe.
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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by annabelle
I would buy seven quarts just to be safe.
yep, in my experience 7 is about right.
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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 11:12 PM
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yeah 7 quarts is the correct amount, i would use the atf+4 it is made with a slip modifier for your lock up torque converter
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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Mechanos
None IMO.... I wouldn't touch that +4 junk if you offered me a lifetime supply. I use Dexron with a bottle of Lube Gaurd Red.
I second that and Dave Goerend agrees with me. JM2C
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7 quarts if dropping the pan
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Old Mar 11, 2009 | 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by mini14
just remember, inch pounds...not foot pounds.
That's why I used the shadetree method. Can't find an "inch pound" wrench without spending big bux. I bought a drain plug kit (B&M 80250) from Summit for cheap and will install it soon. Then I plan on changing the fluid more frequently without splashing my driveway with ATF. And the 7 quarts sounds right, in retrospect. To quote Mr. Mom: "220, 221, whatever it takes."
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Old Mar 11, 2009 | 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by 1998dsmtalon
Thanks again!
But I am still trying to find out about how much fluid I am going to loose when dropping the pan.
-7 Qts, with a filter.... as mentioned above
-6 Qts if not changing filter; mught as well anytime you drop the pan!
-11 Qts if filter and a Deep Dish Mag Hy-Tec Pan. (just FYI). You don't list location, but if in the south, these pans and their higher capacity, make a big difference in tranny running cooler and longer in high summer temps.

I agree with 'Mechanos' ...... get earlier filter. Better filtration. Only one aftermarket, DTT trannies use.

RJ
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