Anatomy of a lift pump...
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Great thread! Thanks for taking the time to tear into those LP's Gary! ;D<br><br><br>Alpine --- Looks mighty cold out there to be tearing apart a lift pump! Or changing one for that matter! <br><br><br>Tony
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Tony: Well yes it was a little refreshing.. -15C (dunno in F) but if you have to drive.... I didn't have a spare LP, but I managed to fix mine with a bolt holding the checkball in. <br><br>Gary: I don't know what sensor you use, but soem of them have a dampener either in the sender or in the gauge to make for a steady readout. This is good for readability but bad to see fluctuations. I tapped into the banjo of the VP44 and found that I do have some pulsations there. (I had the LP running solo against a closed end and almost no fluctuations, running against the VP44 without the engine running even a little less pulsations- I was slightly above blowoff pressure for the valve in the VP44, and last measurement with the engine running)<br>Hence I do assume that the pulsations don't come from the LP. Maybe you get some if you have a sticking vane in the LP...<br><br>AlpineRAM<br><br>
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[quote author=AlpineRAM link=board=4;threadid=16913;start=45#161955 date=1058689341]
Tony: Well yes it was a little refreshing.. -15C (dunno in F) but if you have to drive.... I didn't have a spare LP, but I managed to fix mine with a bolt holding the checkball in.
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I'm thinking that's roughly 6° F.....
Tony: Well yes it was a little refreshing.. -15C (dunno in F) but if you have to drive.... I didn't have a spare LP, but I managed to fix mine with a bolt holding the checkball in.
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I'm thinking that's roughly 6° F.....
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"Gary: I don't know what sensor you use, but soem of them have a dampener either in the sender or in the gauge to make for a steady readout. "<br><br>I've hooked up another, mechanical FP guage I also have, to the same Shrader valve at the VP-44 - and it has no restrictor - and doesn't display any pulsing either. Guess I'm just lucky, or else any problems are not of a type I am aware of... ;D ;D ;D
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I'm pretty sure I was reading somewhere about somone who relocated the lift pump right next to the fuel tank so it wouldn't be such a long pull for the fuel. And he said that the lift pump is made to suppy fuel not suck it for long distances. He said he had good luck with it. I read it on here or somewhere on turbo diesel register.....I'll try to find the link......
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Heres the link its from TDR: http://www.turbodieselregister.com/f...threadid=77891
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Here's a pic of a typical owner-added pusher pump - no big deal, simply a pump similar to the stock pump added back near the fuel tank. Usually a lower PSI pump in the 5-7 PSI range is used, and the stock pumps power circuitry is used to control an added relay for power to the added pump - OR if all you wanna do is MOVE the existing pump back nearer the tank, the stock LP can be moved and installed the same way, and an extension wiring harness made or bought for power to the new location...
No big deal really... Shucks, if *I* can do it, ANYBODY can! ;D ;D ;D
No big deal really... Shucks, if *I* can do it, ANYBODY can! ;D ;D ;D
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Is it the distance from the tank or the distance above the fuel line that causes a problem.<br><br>When I unhooked the rubber fuel line that connects to the steel line from the tank I got a diesel shower. I think you have to think about the siphon effect from the tank.
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From what I was reading its the distance the lift pump has to suck the fuel from the tank that puts all the strain on that pump. The lift pumps are made to pump, not suck long distances.....
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When I installed the Wildcat Diesel fuel line upgrade (upcoming article on the install) I was surprised at how fast the fuel can drain from the tank. <br><br>After looking at the stock fuel lines I now believe that one of the main causes of lift pump death is actually the restriction between the lift pump and the VP44. I saw an increase of 6 psi at the track. Don't ask how low it was before the line change.
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Thanks, Geico. The original analysis by Guest was very impressive and Alpine Ram did bring up a very valid point about differential pressure. I found this thread most interesting and I had not read it before.
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