Anybody wowed so much by the Raptor features that you would pass on a new Airdog system jus' to get the Raptor goodies?--would I be cRaAzY to "jump in first" on the Raptor?

Raptor's pg:
http://www.pureflowtechnologies.com/Raptor.ht

 

With the current deal on the Airdog I would go that route until the special was off. I'm sure the Raptor will be an excellent piece though.

 

When the the raptor says 1/2" lines are standard, does that mean it comes with an install kit or that the fittings on the pump itself are something like 1/2" npt?

 

The install kit is included.

 

Raptor looks interesting, and the plugs look like they are configured to patch right in where the oem LP is.

The question for me is what is the current draw at X amount of pressure, and how does that compare with oem. Gotta worry about a friend ECM if it purports to directly connect where the factory piece was.

Looks like a good option, though I'd like to see more history, of course.

JH

 

I got a couple of pictures with a side by side compasion regarding size. Not that it's any indicator, but it looks like a pretty healthy pump.

Dave

 

The Duetsch plug shown on the Raptor Pump connects to the wiring harness (included with the pump) that comes engine specific. The installation kit that comes with the Raptor has a 'clamp on the frame' bracket that requires no drilling. Because the Raptor has a built in regulator, it doesn't need a return line tee'd from the line to the engine to carry fuel back to the tank. Neat, Huh!

Charlie

 

Charlie, if someone buys a Raptor now, will there be a filter kit for the Raptor comparable to the Airdog filtering components available later on?
Not to complain, but why didn't you roll out the Raptor as a system with filters like the Airdog?

 

The thought behind the development of the Raptor was to get a first line quality pump with the historical long life and quality of the Fuel Preporator with just a replacement pump system. Add a built-in adjustable regulator to reduce the buyers cost of having to buy a regulator and return line, etc. Also put a cleanable screen just inside the inlet fitting, add our Vacu Seal technology so the shaft seal operates under a vacuum instead pressure for the long seal life of our class 8 system. And, last but not least, just let it push through the stock filter housing to save the user (You) money.

Its all about putting a real quality product with a really affordable price on the market. If its good, the company will make money out of volume not high margins! I shop where I can get a good quality product at a good fair price and I suspect others want the same thing.

Besides, start adding the extra filters and it will cost about the same as the AirDog. Then, why not add the air separation? Well, thats what we did!

Charlie

 

Charlie -

Does this Raptor bolt right into the OEM position? I see mention of a bracket (bracket allows utilization of oem position - or does the pump need to be relocated?)

I have the big line kit (1/2") in place - feeding a carter in the OEM position. I'm not crazy about cuttin / splicing fuel lines / extending harness down near the rail as required by the Airdog system. I like the looks of this Raptor.

The photo's on your website show flared fittings off the pump - why not barbs? (My existing system).

Thanks. This looks promising.

Tired of burning up carters every 10k (if I'm lucky!).

 

Good Question,

The reason we include flared fittings in the Raptor is because the fuel lines in the install kit include pushlock to -8 swivel ends. Who wants to cut lines off hose barbs if, for some reason, you want to R & R the pump. Just another extra we include. Also, the inlet fitting is a boss O'ring fitting instead of NPT because there is a wire screen safety insert behind it. Again, who wants to cut the line off a hose barb to to remove the fitting just to clean the screen.

The install kit for the Raptor also includes two 1/4" steel mounting plates that, when bolted together, sandwich the frame between them (no drilling of the frame). The Raptor bolts to one of the plates. You can then mount the pump either inside or outside the frame. Your choice. A wiring harness is also included that is vehicle/engine specific. The harness connects from one end to the battery and with a waterproof Duetsch connectior that connects to its counter part on the Raptor pump lead. There is also a fused lead that connects to the proper point for power. The fuel lines, 1/2" standard, will include a quick connect to the stock tank connection for the Raptor 100 GPH or a larger pickup tube (included) for the 150. The line to the engine will have the proper connection for the application. The pressure will be factory set for the specific engine during QC testing (yes, all Raptors are run on test stations before shipping, serial numbers logged, flows and pressures recorded).

I hope this will give you a better idea of what to expect in the package!

Charlie

 

That sounds VERY tempting, and almost exactly what I'm looking for. About 400 for a lift pump set-up that should NEVER go bad sounds fantastic.

 

I just installed my AirDog last weekend the kit included everything you needed for the install.

After I installed I bumped my starter once with the line on the IP loose to get air out of the line. Made a big mess because I was not fast enough to tighten the line. Bumped it once more then I started it right up have driven 500+ miles since. I love it and the peace of mind I get. I have not seen less than 14 PSI at the IP, most of the time it is between 15-17 depending on the temp outside. but holds rock steady FP no fluxuation.

My Holly Blue gave me nothing but greif any where from 15 - 1 PSI on any given day.

 

Does anyone here have a Raptor installed? Wondering how their holding up - what kind of PSI your seeing just before the VP44?

How long to install?

Also - should I go with a 100 or a 150. Mostly stock truck - do pull pretty heavily with it several times a year (27' stock trailer).

 

SilverRam01,
We are just starting to ship the Raptor Fuel Pump. The Raptor has the same pump design as the AirDog/Fuel Preporator that has set the standard for long lived fuel pumps since 1994. One of the unique features of the Raptor in addition to its long life, is the built in adjustable regulator. Saves you from having to buy an additional regulator and install a return line to the tank.
As for the pressure at the inlet to the VP-44, set the pressure where you want it, its adjustable. Think about this, we know the AirDog 100 can draw from a stock pickup tube drawing from a stock collection basket and doesn't suck the basket dry at low fuel levels. Because the Raptor only flows what the engine draws, if the engine only draws at max 100 to 120gph, you can plum the Raptor 150 to the stock suction tube!!! Also, because the Raptor has a serviceable screen after the inlet boss O'ring fitting, and the fuel line connects with an easily detachable swivel fitting, you do not need a filter before the Raptor Fuel Pump.

If you want to get an opinion as to how they hold up, you may have to wait until someone has the chance to drive a couple hundred thousand miles. don't hold your breath!
Charlie

Charlie