Has anybody had a VP 44 failure after running 2 cycle oil exclusively as an additive? I haven't been able to find any negative feedback from anybody using this method.

The only reviews/opinions I trust are those of fellow owners.

 

I've got over 60k miles on mine so far.

 

mine failed but it was electronic......the mechanical part was like new at 181000 miles

 

What ratio is everyone running?

 

I'm not using it, but mopar1973man, self proclaimed 2 cycle oil guru, recommends a 128:1 ratio for second generation trucks. That works out to 1oz of 2 cycle oil per 1 gal. of fuel. A fuel lubricity study done on the Dieselplace.com website a few years ago, used a 200:1 ratio in their fuel lubricity tests. If you go to the Dodge Cummins forum, you will find out more than you want to know about using 2 cycle oil in your CTD. Mopar1973man also has his own website with much information about using 2 cyle oil as an additive in comparison to using the more conventional diesel fuel additives.

 

I have 75,000 kms on mine using 128/1 TC3W 2 stroke oil. No problems so far!!!

 

An update for anybody who is still on the fence on this one. I am on my fourth tank with a 1 oz/gallon mixture. I gained about 1/2 mpg. I know this truck inside and out, and the mileage is always calculated by hand. The biggest difference is just like everyone states. It's unbelievably quiet. It still sounds like a diesel, but the mechanical chattering and clanking is so diminished that I am amazed every morning when I start it. Nobody can convince me that this mixture is not good for the fuel system. It sounds happy. I even notice the humming on the lift pump is smooth and steady rather than the buzzing it did before. No smoke. No change in power. No difference in starting. Just a nice smooth diesel sound now. I'm impressed. This is my second VP-44. That is an expensive fix, and I don't want to go through that again. Just my observations.

 

I have been running it for about 60000 miles and I have had no problems And I feel the same about it sounds like a Diesel again....I do have allot of peaple ask me what I am doing when fueling at the truckstop. I explain that since my truck was not made for the Ultra tree hugging fuel that this gives me back what I lost in the fuel.

 

on mine the VP is much quieter, Cant say I've seen any mileage differences, I've been using 2 stroke for the last 4yrs on 2 different trucks

 

Have you ever checked the injectors or pulled the heads on either of the two trucks that you put the 2 stroke in? I'm just wondering if you noticed excessive carbon and/or soot buildup on the injectors or in the combustion chamber. There's a thread on this forum, I think it's called "Well Dodge Bought me a Motor" or something like that. The thread starter (Supersonictoys) had some interesting observations about using the Walmart TWC3 2 stroke oil in his truck. It's in the 2003-2007 forum. After reading his observations, I'm not to sure that I would use any 2 stroke oil in my truck.

 

The same guy that told me to use ATF in it says never use 2 cycle...

I say go for it, Id be more concerend about the atf friction modifiers I was warned about.

I used " everything" once. the first time i filled. and then nothing for the next 40k km. Now my pump is gone . Im going 2 stroke the best I can get.

 

I don't know, but it seems like the experiences of 3rd gen owners have little to nothing to do with running 2 stroke in the previous generations.
A 3rd gen is a completely different beast, totally overloaded with epa emissions crap. It is most likely a horrible, horrible idea to run 2 stroke in a newer diesel like that.

I've been running 2 stroke in my 24v for about 45k miles. Just about a 100k on the original vp.

 

I've ran 2 stroke oil in my truck for over 100,000 miles and the tops of my pistons were spotless when I changed the headgasket. The injectors couldn't have been any cleaner. And the truck runs much, much quieter.

 

I'm running 2 stroke in mine as well. In summer the motor is much quieter, but in with with this crappy winter blend, it knocks as hard as it ever has when cold. Has a nice blue haze when warming up though...

Once the motor is good and warm and I've been pulling for a little while, it seems to quiet down...

This is certainly not a stealth vehicle...

 

That's crazy.... and sounds like you know it.
To recommend a lube that is specially designed NOT to burn, over a product built to burn completely is poor judgement, IMO.

2 stroke oil seems to work well! If you have a good, inexpensive supply, go for it.
Unfortunately, over 90% of VP-44 failures are related to electronics.... not the mechanical internals!