I am considering buying a cummins out of a 92 truck, with a little over 100K miles on it and it comes with the tranny which is an auto. what would this be worth?

and can someone tell me the difference between this and a 94 and later?

Thanks!
Ryan

 

The main difference is the injection pumps. The 94+ are capable of much more fuel and power. I'd say with motor and tranny its around $2000 prob a bit more. But sometimes they go for less around $1500 but prob not with the tranny. anyways good luck with it and don't be afraid to ask any more questions

BTW Welcome to the board! Lots of reading to do here

 

I have seen them for as low as $500 BUT! if you can hear it run, the value
goes up, if you can drive it even more. I gave $500 for my first one and $2700
for the second one with a 5 speed trans BUT! that one I drove for a couple days.

IMHO

 

so basically the block and head are the same on the 89 through 98, when they put a new head on it?

could I just put in a new pump and injectors, and get the same power? or would I need to upgrade the turbo too?

Thanks for the replys! I'm still trying to figure out all the different years and engines etc.

Ryan

 

I payed $2500 just for the engine, where are you guys finding these deals?

 

no im not sure what exactly but some pistons are different and a couple other things. The heads on the 89-91.5 non IC'd trucks are different but the 91.5 IC'd trucks to 98 are the same head. Theres also a different timing case on the 94+98 trucks. Lots of different things. kinda sucks that they made so many different parts cuz it makes it alot harder when wanting to do a swap.

 

I've seen complete and warranty'd 5.9 Cummins diesels rebuilt by an authorized Cummins aftermarket engine builder on Ebay for around $6000 and less for long blocks. It's be interesting to know the per unit price Dodge pays for these things new from Cummins, wouldn't it?? Any guesses?? Chuck

 

Around here 1st. and 2nd. Gen. engines will fetch $2500 if they can be heard run; don't count on accessories being un-damaged at this price.

Actually, a 1st. Gen. will bring more than a second.

In comparison, 24-valve engines can be had for from $500 to $1500.

 

Why would a first gen motor ever be cheaper than a second gen motor? A second gen motor fits in place of a first gen motor as easy as a first gen motor, right?

And I don't see why 24 valves would so inexpensive either. Less swappable I guess, but that seems crazy cheap.

 

Could it be because the first-gen is (almost) purely mechanical, while the second-gen and beyond get more and more into on-board computers to function?

DBF

 

The "second gen" moniker usually applies to P-Pumped 1994-1998.5 models. Those were mainly mechanical... I don't think that the engine had much beyond what a 1989-1994 VE pumped engine had.

The P-Pumped engines are capable of about twice the power of VE equipped engines, and they seem to be what everybody interested in performace wants. I don't know why the market would be larger for first gens over second gens.

 

jeez to bad i live far away i could get a 93 complete truck body is shot its a 4x4 extra cab with auto od tranny and 250000km on it for around 2500 canadian

 

the reason y 24V are so cheap is they are so easy to find. the guy my brother bought his remaned 12V from had 5-6 24V laying around and only had one other 12V taht was a short block. and a 12V is running anywhere from 1200(short block) to upwards of 4500 for a remaned long block. and the main difference that i have seen between the engines is the fuel pump and upper intakes. you could put a newer pump on the older engine and run it. and from what i hear and have seen the 24V is the of the cummins motors. plus they have too much computer. just my humble opinion and experience.

 

Thanks for the replys guys! and keep them coming!

How does $2100 sound for 92 engine and auto tranny with it?

I manly want the engine for economy, but would also like to get 200+ HP out of it.

But for real good economy I would need a to get a lock-up torque converter for the tranny.

Ryan