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Old Apr 27, 2007 | 02:05 PM
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sloppy Getrag

Hey guys, just picked up a 1st gen and I have some questions. My Getrag was supposedly just rebuilt when the PO had it, it seems fairly quiet and holds the gears well, but the shifter is kinda screwy. Sometimes it hangs up in second, first can be hard to get into, and the shifter has a good bit of slop in it. I pulled the shift lever out of the tranny the other day when I had it stuck in second and the bottom of the lever is sliding out of the shift rail when I go to third. Is there any adjustment under the top plate or can I replace just the top plate internals to fix all this? I think I'm using the right names when I say top plate and shift rails, but this is all new to me so feel free to school on what I'm actually trying to say! Thanks for any help guys!

Jeffrey
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Old Apr 27, 2007 | 02:09 PM
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That seems kind of normal, but if it is just straight up not letting go in second, id say there is a problem. Possibly a shimming issue?

Greg (G1625S) would be the better one to know.
I have 338K on an original, showroom floor tight getrag. It is a pain to get into 1st unless ya double clutch and rev the motor when down shifting. I do hang in second a touch too. Was the spring in the base of the shifter on the tranny?
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Old Apr 27, 2007 | 03:10 PM
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It lets go of second fine, it just slips the lever past the shift rail. If I keep the shifter pulled towards me a little as I come out of second I could do it with one finger and all is fine, it's just that little bit of slop somewhere that lets it go by without pulling the linkage with it. The spring is there and the c-clip too, so I think the problem is the linkage itself. What about the two bolts on the side of the shifter tower, mine look homemade. Do they fit snug into the little groove on the shifter? Is the actual width of the groove on the shifter pivot ball end the same width of the square end on those two bolts? Does that even make sense!
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Old Apr 27, 2007 | 05:55 PM
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Check your 1/2 shift fork. My Getrag wouldn't go into first or second at all because the fork slopped around too much on the slider;the 1/2 shift fork had two separate curves in it.
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Old Apr 27, 2007 | 07:03 PM
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Check your 1/2 shift fork. My Getrag wouldn't go into first or second at all because the fork slopped around too much on the slider;the 1/2 shift fork had two separate curves in it.
Are the sides of the tang on the end of the stick worn down? If they are then it can slip in between the slots in the shift fork rods. Also if the front/back edges are worn down allowing for excess front back slop then you can have a situation where it doesn't pull the 1/2 fork all the way to neutral before it slips sideways to the 3/4 fork. There is a mechanism which prevents the shifte putting the tranny into 2 gears at the same time which would cause the tranny to self destruct. In such case the 1/2 fork not being all the way to neutral locks the other forks in neutral but because the shifter is now in the 3/4 fork the 1/2 fork is liable to slide back into 2nd because of the detent mechanism. Then you are stuck and can't move the shifter into any gear but 2nd.

Someday I'll make a drawing that explains all of this.

Edwin
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Old Apr 27, 2007 | 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by dumptruck200
Check your 1/2 shift fork. My Getrag wouldn't go into first or second at all because the fork slopped around too much on the slider;the 1/2 shift fork had two separate curves in it.
ahh crap, I hope that's not the problem! I'm gonna have to pull it and check things out I guess
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