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Old Oct 18, 2010 | 03:26 PM
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oil pan torque?

any body know what the oil pan torque is. 2 gen cummins
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Old Oct 18, 2010 | 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by chanceray
any body know what the oil pan torque is. 2 gen cummins
Don't know what it is for a cummins pan, but for every other that I have done, it's finger tight or just tight enough to not distort the gasket. Same with valve covers, I use an extension, socket and my hand...Mark
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Old Oct 18, 2010 | 05:15 PM
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http://www.cumminsforum.com/forum/94...que-specs.html
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Old Oct 18, 2010 | 05:41 PM
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That is how I have installed every pan I have ever done. Is there really anyone that uses a torque wrench to tighten pan bolts to 18 foot pounds? really? ...Mark
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Old Oct 18, 2010 | 07:31 PM
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That is how I have installed every pan I have ever done. Is there really anyone that uses a torque wrench to tighten pan bolts to 18 foot pounds? really? ...Mark
Yes, I have because it takes a lot more time removing the broken bolt than dialing in the torque wrench.
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Old Oct 18, 2010 | 07:50 PM
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Yes, I have because it takes a lot more time removing the broken bolt than dialing in the torque wrench.
That is why you use your hand, read my first post, besides, it is rare that you can get a torque wrench on many of the bolts, while it is in the vehicle. Mark
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Old Oct 18, 2010 | 08:22 PM
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Mark,
Nothing personal in this and I'm not bragging either. It took over 40 years to accumulate my tools and put up a 5000 square foot shop. I was taught back in 1965 about the benefits of the proper tool for the job. I had an Uncle that was a certified aircraft mechanic. Talk about picky... Granted, we all don't have the luxury in doing certain tasks always in the 100% correct mode. I don't use the torque wrench 100% of the time. Last example was whenever I reinstalled the fan assembly on my engine. Right now I'm pondering replacing the oil pan gasket & lifter cover gasket on my project truck. The engine is out and will be easy to do using the torque wrench. BTW, my weakness has always been exactly following the tightening position sequence as printed. There is where I cheat a little bit! I do however try my best to follow the instructions supplied in the Cummins Service Manual.

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Old Oct 18, 2010 | 08:31 PM
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Mark,
Nothing personal in this and I'm not bragging either. It took over 40 years to accumulate my tools and put up a 5000 square foot shop. I was taught back in 1965 about the benefits of the proper tool for the job. I had an Uncle that was a certified aircraft mechanic. Talk about picky... Granted, we all don't have the luxury in doing certain tasks always in the 100% correct mode. I don't use the torque wrench 100% of the time. Last example was whenever I reinstalled the fan assembly on my engine. Right now I'm pondering replacing the oil pan gasket & lifter cover gasket on my project truck. The engine is out and will be easy to do using the torque wrench. BTW, my weakness has always been exactly following the tightening position sequence as printed. There is where I cheat a little bit! I do however try my best to follow the instructions supplied in the Cummins Service Manual.


Nothing personal here, but what do you do when you cannot get a torque wrench on it? I was taught many years ago that, on pans and such, just don,t distort the gasket. That is all. Did you know that the Porsche 912 engine head bolts are torqued to 21.8 foot pounds and there is no gasket. Don't know what that has to do with anything......
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Old Oct 18, 2010 | 09:16 PM
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Nothing personal here, but what do you do when you cannot get a torque wrench on it? I was taught many years ago that, on pans and such, just don,t distort the gasket. That is all. Did you know that the Porsche 912 engine head bolts are torqued to 21.8 foot pounds and there is no gasket. Don't know what that has to do with anything......
That is mainly for cork gaskets.
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Old Oct 18, 2010 | 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by CaptainChrysler
That is mainly for cork gaskets.
Ok, so it's ok to distort rubber ones????????? Paleeeeez
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Old Oct 18, 2010 | 09:27 PM
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Which rubber ones?
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Old Oct 18, 2010 | 09:35 PM
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I always find a way to get a torqwrench on anyone of my or peoples trucks I work on. I've got lots of money wrapped up in tools, no point in me not using them.
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Old Oct 18, 2010 | 10:07 PM
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Which rubber ones?
Ok, Ill dummy it up for you, Non-cork gaskets...
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Old Oct 18, 2010 | 10:08 PM
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I always find a way to get a torqwrench on anyone of my or peoples trucks I work on. I've got lots of money wrapped up in tools, no point in me not using them.
I shirly do hopes to own tuuls one o these days
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Old Oct 18, 2010 | 10:16 PM
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Ok, so it's ok to distort rubber ones????????? Paleeeeez
Technical you are distorting it some just by putting any torque on it. Weather or not you can see the distortion(compression in this case) is what makes you believe you aren't distorting it or not. Also if you have the tools why not do the job right is what most are saying, I use a torque wrench on stuff like this cause if I don't have time to do it right the first time when will I find the time to do it the second time, takes an extra two minutes to throw the TW on them.
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