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Old Apr 19, 2010 | 09:20 PM
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New stock head bolts?

I am having a really hard time finding a place to pick up a set of new stock head bolts. I've tried several places with no luck. Before I take the truck to the track I'd like to install some new head bolts and over tq them. I'm not really looking to go with head studs.
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Old Apr 19, 2010 | 09:30 PM
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Are your bolts bad?
http://www.pureautogroup.com/shop/ne...-26-p-244.html

Good luck
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Old Apr 19, 2010 | 10:18 PM
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Old Apr 19, 2010 | 11:25 PM
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Thanks, thats what I was looking for! Mine arent bad that I know of, but I dont want to just over tq the old ones. I'd feel better starting with a new set. Just a cheap piece of mind I guess.
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Old Apr 20, 2010 | 12:19 AM
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How tight are you planning on going? I would recommend not going above 140ft lbs.
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Old Apr 20, 2010 | 02:14 AM
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if you're going to retorque, i'd go no higher than 125ft lbs. to be on the safe side.
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Old Apr 20, 2010 | 09:28 AM
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What are they torqued to stock anyway? Isn't it 115ft lbs?
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Old Apr 20, 2010 | 11:41 AM
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i forget what the old head bolt torque is but i can look it up for you later when i get home and will look in my shop manual. the new ones use a torque plus angle method in the sequence. a final torque of 89ft lbs and then an additional 90* turn. that comes out to at least 125ft lbs.
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Old Apr 20, 2010 | 12:37 PM
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why not just go with head studs if your pushin 50 lbs??
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Old Apr 20, 2010 | 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by 92smokin blacky
why not just go with head studs if your pushin 50 lbs??
Because I honestly dont think I need studs at just 50lbs. I have spoken with a few 12v guys running 600+hp and they swear by stock head bolts over tq'ed. So I think I shouldnt have any problems with the turbo limited to about 40psi and a little nitrous. If I decide to go to twins and push 60psi then I will look into studs, but thats further down the road... For now I wanna see what I can do with a small single turbo.
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Old Apr 20, 2010 | 01:00 PM
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Oh i got ya. I'd just put the head studs in now instead of buyin new head bolts and so you wouldn't have to do it later if I was you and you wouldn't have to worry. But I guess its up to you.
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Old Apr 20, 2010 | 01:52 PM
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I made 448 at the wheels with 50psi and nitrous on bolts. Torqued to 125 lb-ft. Don't need new ones, just a few extra handy in case some turn more than the rest. That means the bolt is stretching too much and needs to be replaced.
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Old Apr 20, 2010 | 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by pwrtripls1
Because I honestly dont think I need studs at just 50lbs. I have spoken with a few 12v guys running 600+hp and they swear by stock head bolts over tq'ed. So I think I shouldnt have any problems with the turbo limited to about 40psi and a little nitrous. If I decide to go to twins and push 60psi then I will look into studs, but thats further down the road... For now I wanna see what I can do with a small single turbo.
i wouldn't trust that the bolts would hold. i think it's just pure luck of those who haven't had issues... yet. i'd go with studs if you're over 40psi and i think everyone here would agree. but, even studs are only good to a certain pressure. if you're getting close to 60psi, o-rings are recommended.
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Old Apr 20, 2010 | 04:00 PM
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I going to run these allen bolts in my 2nd gen 12v, they are in several pulling trucks that 60psi without failure. The best part they are $130 shipped.

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Old Apr 20, 2010 | 04:42 PM
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have a write up or thread on those allen bolts? thats interesting.
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