you won't BELIEVE how many younger guys I've talked to that claim they have these MASSIVE horsepower 350's, they are all vette engines, or the PO put $1000's into it. Some guys really know what to say to get a kid to buy their stuff! All they gotta do is throw on a glasspack and it's instantly at least 400hp!!!! My good buddy is a victim and I can't find the heart to tell him even after he's doing a body swap onto the frame with the engine in it. I've rode it in, NO WAY is it more than 200-250hp!

 

That 3rd gen wasn't 600rwhp, unless he was just toying with you. My brother has an '03 Common Rail that isn't laying down anything close to 600rwhp, and it boogies. Either he was lying to you, has no idea what his truck really makes, or was playing with you. I'd lean more towards he has no idea what he is talking about. I'm not trying to sound like a jerk, but once you ride in a 500rwhp gasser, or 600rwhp Cummins, you'll realize your 1st Gen won't come close, especially with your mods.

 

well I don't know exactly how much power the 350 had, my buddy was just sayin that he thinks it has around 500hp. But i don't know for sure, I'll have to ask him more about it when i see him again. And the 3rd gen guy I raced, I know had lots of time and money into his truck, and he was about to put twins on his truck. But I don't think he had 600hp at the wheels, I do think he was lyin to me, cuz he didn't beat me by much and I don't even think my truck is over 280hp. So it couldn't have been that close, he might've been around 400hp, but he said he was at 600hp.

 

It's been said here before the 3rd gens are alot heavier than our trucks, so he may not be lying?

I dunno.

 

My friend has a 84 K10 shortbed chevy with a 350 and he says it has a cam but its really a miss because the carb is too big and it fouls the plugs

 

There is no doubt that a 3rg gen is heavier, but 600rwhp is a lot. Especially compared to an I/C 1st Gen, with just pump tuning. A stock Common Rail would probably beat a tuned 1st Gen (pump only), and there is absolutely no way a 600rwhp Common Rail would lose to a 1st Gen, unless he blew his tranny up or missed shifts, but even then, very unlikely.

He probably added the ratings from his boxes up, and came to the 600rwhp conclusion. Plus the stickers are 25rwhp each.

Like I said before, my brothers '03 isn't close to 600rwhp, and it would beat a lot more than a 1st Gen with pump tuning.

To the OP, why do you manually shift your auto? I don't see the point, unless you just think it's fun, then I can't blame ya.

 

you can wind the gears out.. and if you have a 3200 spring it really helps, it'll keep pulling after the factory shift points (rpm)

 

yep it helps a lot, especially since I have the 366 spring. It will definately get my rpms up and pull hard, then when i shift up to the next gear, it will throw you back in your seat cuz it just takes off and pulls harder, I can't even explain it, but it definately helps!

And I know that 3rd gen guy said his tranny was slippin, and he did have at least a 6" lift and at least 38" tires, so that would've slowed him down quite a bit, plus his truck is a lot heavier, and I didn't beat him, he beat me by about 2 car lengths, but both of us were still surprised with my 1st gen, I do think my 1st gen runs pretty dang good though, With only an he351 turbo, 366 spring, and my afc lever taken out and the full power screw in a few turns, and i am pushin 40 lbs of boost with my stock i/c injectors?

 

if you wanted to shift gears, why didnt buy a getrag

 

because they slow you down, you have to spool the turbo every gear

 

ive raced and beat hopped-up common rails. being quik is more than dyno queen raw hp #,s. the ve cant fuel enough at hi rpm to make the hi dyno #,s. it is a very quik accelerating pump, due to dynamic timing and other factors. it fuels hard down low. i,m wanting to run a 1/4 mile for kicks. ive only raced 5or 6 trucks and beat them all 0-85. ran out of room by then. if it was all about hp we,d be driving somthing else. the ve makes usuable power on acceleration.

 

edit my post, i love the common rail and p-pump. iguess its really about money if i had enough i,d have one of each.messed with both a little,but the ve has its advantages

 

OP is gonna end up blowing up his tranny racing people all the time.

 

because i got the truck and it was an auto, so thats what i got. I've thought about switchin it, but i don't have the money to do that. The auto is nice sometimes though, and its stock so far and it is holdin up great! I am really surprised how well its been!

 

Ur not making a ton of power yet either. Do some more mods and see how ur trans does then.