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Old Jan 3, 2007 | 08:01 PM
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A 3200 RPM governor spring is a great mod as far as bang for the buck. The governor spring lets you wind it out farther before shifting. With a 3200 RPM governor spring in my truck, I can do 70 (maybe more) with the O/D off.
Ohhohohohohhh.....

Boy, that '59Ford guy sure is silly for getting the word "valve" all mixed up with the word "governor", ain't he? Good thing you quoted his as doing that or else he might go back and change things on ya...

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Old Jan 3, 2007 | 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Begle1
Ohhohohohohhh.....

Boy, that '59Ford guy sure is silly for getting the word "valve" all mixed up with the word "governor", ain't he? Good thing you quoted his as doing that or else he might go back and change things on ya...

Huh? What?
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Old Jan 3, 2007 | 08:37 PM
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Here's my take on your situation, Rick.

Turbine housing - that 21 cm sucks sooo bad (the 16 is perfect for you)
gauges
4" exhaust - and tow rigs need a muffler or you will hate it.
3200 RPM spring (and do some pump tweaking while you're in there)
a good TC and a shift kit/valve body
compressor upgrade

You won't need to deal with the fuel supply until you add injectors, but you will have a hard time keeping it cool by that point.
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Old Jan 3, 2007 | 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Begle1
Next you need a torque convertor for $400 to $1000; the $400 Hughes model holds 300 horsepower and the $1000 dollar Goerend Brother's model holds !@$% horsepower. A valvebody is optional below 300 horsepower; $400 dollars for a good automatic one, $200 for a manual one that won't work for towing.
Just FYI, the $1000+ Goerend converters are the billet lockup converters which are not used in our (A518 and 727) autos. For a tow rig, I don't think a billet converter is necessary, especially for the relatively lightweight/low HP towing that Rick is going to do. I had my converter custom built by Goerend for my power level and it was about 1/2 the price you mentioned.

Don't forget a second gen flexplate (unless some else has mentioned it). A new converter with a good valve body will make your truck into a whole new beast.
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Old Jan 3, 2007 | 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Ilikebikes
Just FYI, the $1000+ Goerend converters are the billet lockup converters which are not used in our (A518 and 727) autos. For a tow rig, I don't think a billet converter is necessary, especially for the relatively lightweight/low HP towing that Rick is going to do. I had my converter custom built by Goerend for my power level and it was about 1/2 the price you mentioned.

Don't forget a second gen flexplate (unless some else has mentioned it). A new converter with a good valve body will make your truck into a whole new beast.
I really need to get an update on thier prices. I called them once and they said that they had convertors for the 727 at $800... Then somebody said that they sell two kinds of converters, triple discs and single discs, for $1000 and $600 respectively... Then somebody said that triple disks don't exist for 727's, and the single discs cost $1,000... I don't know what to think anymore...
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Old Jan 3, 2007 | 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Begle1
I really need to get an update on thier prices. I called them once and they said that they had convertors for the 727 at $800... Then somebody said that they sell two kinds of converters, triple discs and single discs, for $1000 and $600 respectively... Then somebody said that triple disks don't exist for 727's, and the single discs cost $1,000... I don't know what to think anymore...
All the non lockup performance converters I've seen have been a LOT cheaper than lockup performance converters. I called suncoast and they wanted to sell me a billet, non lockup converter for over 1g. I don't think that billet converters are necessary for non lockup converters, unless you're running insane power.
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Old Jan 4, 2007 | 02:58 AM
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Help my brain is swelling...

Begle1.... Did you get your turkey SPEEDOS and a headband for Christmas?

Jim
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Old Apr 21, 2007 | 03:04 PM
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As per Goerend's site, their triple-disc TC is $1295 and their "100,000 mile warranty" TC is $1050. I emailed them to find out if the $1050 unit is single disc or not.
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Old Apr 21, 2007 | 07:32 PM
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WOW, Goerend already got back to me, a low stall, non-lockup for the 1st gens is $650. Not too bad...
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Old Apr 22, 2007 | 10:40 AM
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WOW, Goerend already got back to me, a low stall, non-lockup for the 1st gens is $650. Not too bad...
same price as the BD line of 1st gen non lock up TC's. Mine, I like a lot. I have a problem with valve body choices, though. Any suggestions?
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