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Old Nov 27, 2005 | 06:10 AM
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KDP Questions

Hey all,

I removed the timing case cover to check and tab the KDP. I have some observations/questions.

1. The dowel pin appers to be fine.

2. The pictures online are different from my timing case cover. They must be from a later truck? Mine has some extra metal between the bolt and the pin so the $1 dealer tab won't work without case modifcation?

3. A few inches above the bolt that usually holds the tab, is there supposed to be another bolt? I have a bit of stubble there that looks like it might have had a bolt head at one time. The case shows what looks like the washer indent from the wide bolt head.

4. To "kill" KDP should I modify the case to use the dealer part by removing that thin extra metal around the pin? Or should I use a coathanger or other piece of thick steel to fit the case? Or should I do nothing at all - it hasn't moved in 216Kmi it isn't likely to move anytime soon?

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Brian
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Old Nov 27, 2005 | 06:58 AM
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I recently killed the kdp in a 96 and as you have already noticed the 1st gen case has more material in that area. Look in my gallery at the one I did, the pin sits flush with the case, it was 3/16" out, my 1st gens sit sub flush.

I peened the mine with a hammer and a punch. Other guys on here have a piece of heavy wire or coat hanger bent to hold it in.

G1625S has some nice pictures of "tabbing" a 1st gen kdp.
https://www.dieseltruckresource.com/...0&ppuser=27190

As for you mystery bolt, I'm out of ideas, I would think if it dropped you should see some damage somewhere.
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Old Nov 27, 2005 | 08:56 AM
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I think the "mystery bolt" is still in place minus the bolt head.

I would like to know if there is supposed to be a bolt about 3" above the bolt that people use to help kill the KDP?

Thanks for the extra photo information.
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Old Nov 27, 2005 | 10:16 AM
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You could remove the metal for the tab to fit or just peen the hole its the fastest way and will never let the pin out
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Old Nov 28, 2005 | 07:01 PM
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I used a coathanger I got from my dry cleaning. Anybody see this method fail? Looks similar to G1625S's method but maybe my coathanger is a little thinner.

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Brian
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Old Nov 28, 2005 | 07:51 PM
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I tell ya, once it was done, I looked twice and thought it looked safer when I started, but with a little thread locker on the threads, I sleep well at night.
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Old Nov 29, 2005 | 09:15 PM
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Now that I am trying to put the pump gear back on, I am having some difficulties. It seems that the pump drive is under some tension and when the gear is removed, it moves a little. How is one supposed to rotate the gear/pump drive to correctly fit the cam gear correctly? Is engine rotation the way to do it, or is there a trick I am missing?

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Brian
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