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Old Oct 8, 2009 | 10:38 AM
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Question Found some 2nd gen wheels

Someone in my area is trying to sell five stock '01 wheels from a 2500. Caps and lug nuts are included.
My truck has the original steel wheels with the dog dish hubcaps with LT235/85R16 tires.
Haven't see the wheels yet, but he said they're like this one, with 305/70x16s that have 30% tread on them.
Trying to figure out what all would be involved in getting these on the truck and if it's worth messing with.
I don't know how wide the wheels are. Would my tires fit?
From reading old posts, I'd probably need spacers, but how wide do they need to be? Would I have to get new lug bolts?
It would be nice to have some spiffy wheels, but there are a lot of other things around here that need need time and money.
Any idea how much I'd end up spending (besides the wheels) when all is said and done?
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Old Oct 8, 2009 | 11:16 AM
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I put some 2nd gen whls on my old girl. It looked like a bicycle w/o spacers, so I found some 2" spacers on e-bay for a couple hundred bucks. I then got the front spacers machined down 5/8" so that track width would be a little closer to the rear. The whls are 17 x 8's w/ 37" BFG muds, and it looks allright, but if I were to do it again I'd rather not mess around with 32 extra studs to keep tight.
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Old Oct 8, 2009 | 11:36 AM
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Those wheels are 16X8 with a 6.25" backspacing.

From the factory, they put 265s on those rims, so the 235s may be a little narrow. That's only a 9.25" wide tire on a 8" wide rim.
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Old Oct 8, 2009 | 11:38 AM
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I did the same search and in end just went after market way easier and more choices
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Old Oct 8, 2009 | 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by AggieJustin
Those wheels are 16X8 with a 6.25" backspacing.

From the factory, they put 265s on those rims, so the 235s may be a little narrow. That's only a 9.25" wide tire on a 8" wide rim.
The door jam sticker on mine says 245's were stock, and I think 235 were stock on duallys
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Old Oct 8, 2009 | 01:50 PM
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I put some 2nd gen whls on my old girl. It looked like a bicycle w/o spacers, so I found some 2" spacers on e-bay for a couple hundred bucks. I then got the front spacers machined down 5/8" so that track width would be a little closer to the rear. The whls are 17 x 8's w/ 37" BFG muds, and it looks allright, but if I were to do it again I'd rather not mess around with 32 extra studs to keep tight.
If they're 17X8s and you needed spacers, then they are 3rd gen wheels. You would have a pretty hard time getting a 37 inch tire onto a 2nd gen rim.
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Old Oct 8, 2009 | 04:05 PM
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So, it looks like my wheels are 16x6 and the other guy has 16x8.
I called a local tire shop, and they said my tires would fit, "no problem at all."
They could even be narrower than 235. That sounds good. What do y'all think?

If the wheels would work with my tires, then I'm guessing there wouldn't be a problem with speedometer error.

If the tire size isn't a problem, that leaves spacers and (I think) bigger bolts. Is that right?
Maybe 2" spacers in back and 1.25" in the front? Do you folks use the spacers with only holes in them, or the kind with holes and bolts?
This is all pretty new to me.

I've never changed wheels on any of my vehicles, so getting advice from folks with experience is a must. And greatly appreciated!
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Old Oct 8, 2009 | 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Purplezr2
The door jam sticker on mine says 245's were stock, and I think 235 were stock on duallys
Far as I know, the 245s were the stock size on the steel wheels which were 16x6.5. The 16x8 alloy wheels had a 265 tire on them from the factory.
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Old Oct 9, 2009 | 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by schamran
If they're 17X8s and you needed spacers, then they are 3rd gen wheels. You would have a pretty hard time getting a 37 inch tire onto a 2nd gen rim.
A 17" tire onto a 16" rim? That should go pretty easy To clarify, they're aftermarket off of a 2nd gen.
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Old Oct 9, 2009 | 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Ronny Bailey
So, it looks like my wheels are 16x6 and the other guy has 16x8.
I called a local tire shop, and they said my tires would fit, "no problem at all."
They could even be narrower than 235. That sounds good. What do y'all think?

If the wheels would work with my tires, then I'm guessing there wouldn't be a problem with speedometer error.

If the tire size isn't a problem, that leaves spacers and (I think) bigger bolts. Is that right?
Maybe 2" spacers in back and 1.25" in the front? Do you folks use the spacers with only holes in them, or the kind with holes and bolts?
This is all pretty new to me.

I've never changed wheels on any of my vehicles, so getting advice from folks with experience is a must. And greatly appreciated!
You would have to use spacers with studs, as your stock studs won't be long enough.
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Old Oct 10, 2009 | 08:01 AM
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If I recall correctly early 2nd gens use a 16 x 6.5" steel wheel with a 245/75/16 tire. The later 2nd gens use a 16 x 7 steel or 16 x 8 aluminum wheel which run the 265/75/16 tire. The 265 is identical or very close to the same height as our original 235. My 265 tires are rated for 3400 lbs each.

I used a 2" spacer in conjunction with 9/16 studs front and back on my truck to run the 16 x 8 aluminums.

I am running a late model Dana 80 (02) which is wider than the Dana 70, early drum brake Dana 80s (94-99?), and the same width as the later drum brake Dana 80s (99-early 01).

The wheels look factory with this setup.

There is more info with stud part numbers in the "stickies" section of this forum.
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