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Old Dec 6, 2017 | 04:20 PM
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Again, I may be wrong. I'm not a chemist. It was quite awhile ago that I researched it. After several days of digging I satisfied myself that it was not worth the money and pretty much forgot about it. IRRC the information that led me to that conclusion was the MSDS for EWC. See page 2 of the link.


http://www.hrpworld.com/store/media/...%20-%20SDS.pdf
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Old Dec 6, 2017 | 08:51 PM
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According the the MSDS Evans stuff is between 80 and 85% Ethylene Glycol with some other additives which are probably for corrosion resistance.

IMHO you could use 100% Regular Ethylene Glycol antifreeze and save a bunch of money and have essentially the same product.

Sounds like a rip-off to me.
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Old Dec 6, 2017 | 10:29 PM
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I boiled over a boiler that had safety-freeze (propylene glycol) and water in it. It got hot enough long enough to completely boil off the water and drastically overheat the safety-freeze.

When I vented that thing, the gas that came out knocked me for a loop. I had to go in full hazmat and evacuate it before I could repair it and re-fill it.

I tell all that because I'd hate to deal with whatever would come from grossly overheating pure ethylene glycol, Evans or otherwise.
Filter Mate Potassium Per - Cleansers - Ace Hardware

If you mix pure ethylene glycol with potassium permanganate at about a 1:1 ratio by volume, it puts off possibly the WORST smoke known to man kind. While the smell is only horrific and the nose hair burning characteristics are just short of cataclysmic, there is absolutely no way to get rid of the smell afterwards. You might as well burn any clothing that gets exposed to the smoke, but then the clothing you wear while burning your clothing will be ruined as well.

1/2 gallon of antifreeze and a full jug of potassium permanganate in piece of 6" well casing in the school parking lot raises some eyebrows. Apparently 15' of flames and enough thick white smoke to block the sun was a little more extreme than the usual oxy-acetylene bombs and thermite experiments.

To this day, every time I open the door on my Ford, I still catch a whiff.
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Old Dec 7, 2017 | 01:44 AM
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Originally Posted by 1972RedNeck
Filter Mate Potassium Per - Cleansers - Ace Hardware

If you mix pure ethylene glycol with potassium permanganate at about a 1:1 ratio by volume, it puts off possibly the WORST smoke known to man kind. While the smell is only horrific and the nose hair burning characteristics are just short of cataclysmic, there is absolutely no way to get rid of the smell afterwards. You might as well burn any clothing that gets exposed to the smoke, but then the clothing you wear while burning your clothing will be ruined as well.

1/2 gallon of antifreeze and a full jug of potassium permanganate in piece of 6" well casing in the school parking lot raises some eyebrows. Apparently 15' of flames and enough thick white smoke to block the sun was a little more extreme than the usual oxy-acetylene bombs and thermite experiments.

To this day, every time I open the door on my Ford, I still catch a whiff.
Bad boy! Bad bad bad.
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Old Dec 7, 2017 | 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by edwinsmith
According the the MSDS Evans stuff is between 80 and 85% Ethylene Glycol with some other additives which are probably for corrosion resistance.

IMHO you could use 100% Regular Ethylene Glycol antifreeze and save a bunch of money and have essentially the same product.

Sounds like a rip-off to me.

My thoughts exactly. I am curious what the other 10-15% of unlisted chemicals are. I can only assume that they are inert or they would be listed on the MSDS.
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Old Dec 7, 2017 | 06:49 PM
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My thoughts exactly. I am curious what the other 10-15% of unlisted chemicals are. I can only assume that they are inert or they would be listed on the MSDS.
My guess is that since Ethylene Glycol is an alcohol it is hygroscopic meaning it absorbs water and water is pretty much an inert component. Kind of blows the whole no-oxygen theory completely out of the... ocean.
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Old Dec 7, 2017 | 08:48 PM
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Oh, boy!


I'd love to be a fly on the wall in Marks house right about now...


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Old Dec 8, 2017 | 09:39 AM
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Oh, boy!


I'd love to be a fly on the wall in Marks house right about now...


No, I'm fine. In fact, I think that it's a good thing that all of the mechanics out there get plenty of practice swapping out water pumps, rad hoses and all other cooling system components because I sure won't know how. It's kind of a lost art for me and that makes me sad ...Mark
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Old Dec 9, 2017 | 07:22 AM
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desert racers like the 375* boil point, I wonder where the engine decides its reached its tolerable limit of heat point......
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