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Old Feb 22, 2016 | 11:10 AM
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That's some good info on the link you posted Mr. Fonder, thank you. So if I'm reading correctly in running 15° static timing and 25° when the spacer kicks in. Does this sound like a good match for the 6x13s. I'm afraid I'm over advanced and sure don't want to pull the front of the truck off to adjust the gear again. I plan on baking the fuel screw out, testing and if not happy adjusting the timing. My only concern Is that I can only advance the timing with my current setup and from what I understand bigger injectors need more timing and since I have switched to smaller injectors I can't retard the timing enough now. Maybe I'm just over thinking it though lol.
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Old Feb 23, 2016 | 01:10 PM
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i didn't realize that the spacer gave you 10 degrees of dynamic timing. according to that link, guys are running 27 degrees static with no problems
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Old Feb 23, 2016 | 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by j.fonder
i didn't realize that the spacer gave you 10 degrees of dynamic timing. according to that link, guys are running 27 degrees static with no problems
That's what i understand but i could be wrong
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Old Feb 23, 2016 | 05:16 PM
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That's what i understand but i could be wrong
is that what M&H claims or where did you hear that? not doubting you, just curious if that is an accurate and verified number. seems like a lot of advance from that spacer only being 3/16" thick
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Old Feb 23, 2016 | 05:32 PM
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http://www.dieselbombers.com/5-9l-rotary-performance/37961-shaving-timing-advance-pis

I apologize, post 56. Looks like it adds 6.4°
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Old Feb 23, 2016 | 05:35 PM
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so you're around 21-22* dynamic. i wouldn't call that too advanced.
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Old Feb 23, 2016 | 05:36 PM
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so you're around 21-22* dynamic. i wouldn't call that too advanced.
I didn't think so. Knowing my luck the pumps gone
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Old Feb 24, 2016 | 11:51 AM
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Thank yall for your replies. Sounds like I should be ok even with the timing spacer. I believe I am currently 1 turn away from runaway but I will confirm soon. I am running a 4 inch do to 5 inch with a MagnaFlow performance muffler. One thing that strikes me as odd is the wire that used to go to my ksb. When I installed the spacer the truck ran horribly. I contacted the owner of M&H and he told me to run it with the wire disconnected. So I have been. The other day just for giggles I touched the wire (that has been taped up out of the way) back to the prong on the ksb. It should have arcade and idled roughly but did nothing at all. Maybe ksb bit the dust? I will adjust fuel screw and post results. Thank yall again.
I had no power going to the KSB, but 12v from battery to KSB proved the solenoid was still good. Bought a used sensor/switch from Oliver, and all is good. I could tell because of the extra racket I hear on cold morning start ups, combined with the M&H spacer. I keep mine wired, as mine doesn't suffer from poor drivability with the KSB plugged along with the spacer. That sensor switch is on top of your intake plenum, closest to the firewall.
On another note, BC847 posted a pic of new injectors that had a crack on the tip, allowing fuel to dribble if I read it correctly on one of my late night searches on DTR. I know, recently, when I changed my 8 year old POD's out for reasons of excessive smoke, I noticed the number 5 injector was soaking wet at the tip. All others bone dry. I went with what DAP recommended, the 5x12 VCO injectors for better mpg's and still some power as my driving lifestyle has changed to more of a commuter rig. If it were me, do the easy stuff first as JMartin and Fonder has suggested, then check your injectors. You should be under warranty on those should they be faulty.

Hey, how's that rubber diaphragm? Under the AFC cover? No pin holes?
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Old Feb 25, 2016 | 08:39 PM
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Well i changed out the fuel pin diaphragm for a spare i had, backed the fuel screw out 1-1/2 turns. Still no change. Pulled oil fill tube off and inspected pump gear nut, still tight, pump bolts are tight so it's not moving anywhere to allow the pump to turn under throttle. I knew that was a long shot but stranger things have happened. Saturday I'll swap the injector's out for the bigger ones and see what happens, who knows maybe one or two cracked or failed.
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Old Feb 26, 2016 | 09:46 AM
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Have you checked to see if that sensor/switch to the KSB is functioning? What about the AFC spring? Have you tried back to the stocker spring to see if maybe that HD spring may be a slight culprit? Can't understand... You had it sorta licked not too long ago. My haze is coming back, also. I have to occasionally put it in neutral while at a stop light to rev up the rpm's and stop the slight haze. Starting to wonder if maybe it's fuel type. I did dump a concoction of 32 oz. premixed of injector cleaner and Marvel Mystery oil recently, and wonder if the MMO is causing the haze.
I know as it gets warmer in ambient temps, my truck will haze more than during cold winter days. That makes it tough on other folks next to me, as they sit with their windows down, enjoying the sun's rays
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Old Feb 26, 2016 | 10:26 AM
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Have you checked to see if that sensor/switch to the KSB is functioning? What about the AFC spring? Have you tried back to the stocker spring to see if maybe that HD spring may be a slight culprit? Can't understand... You had it sorta licked not too long ago. My haze is coming back, also. I have to occasionally put it in neutral while at a stop light to rev up the rpm's and stop the slight haze. Starting to wonder if maybe it's fuel type. I did dump a concoction of 32 oz. premixed of injector cleaner and Marvel Mystery oil recently, and wonder if the MMO is causing the haze.
I know as it gets warmer in ambient temps, my truck will haze more than during cold winter days. That makes it tough on other folks next to me, as they sit with their windows down, enjoying the sun's rays
Yessir, been running stock spring for about a week or so. Yeah its got me thinking its a pump issue or injectors. It hazes very badly, smokes badly at every shift and the miss. Turbo spools quickly and steady so it's not that, i might run the valves just to be sure I'm not floating them but I doubt it. Its funny because these 6x13s were churched up by alot of people to cure haze and smoke. I've tuned this pump (thanks to yall) and backed off my fuel screw and they haze and smoke just as much as the 5x16s. Could have spent that money on studs or valve springs or anything else than another set of smokey sticks
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Old Feb 26, 2016 | 09:28 PM
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I'd send the injectors back and ask for a like for like replacement. You never know. You should be able to, as you have low miles on those things. Who makes/sells them?
You don't happen to still have the stock sticks, do you? Wonder how it would smoke if you put those back on
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Old Feb 26, 2016 | 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by bigragu
I'd send the injectors back and ask for a like for like replacement. You never know. You should be able to, as you have low miles on those things. Who makes/sells them?
You don't happen to still have the stock sticks, do you? Wonder how it would smoke if you put those back on
No stock sticks. Traded those in long ago. Just the DAP 5x16s i just took out. I'm running DAP 6x13s now. I'm going to swap them out tomorrow and see what happens. If there's something wrong with the 6 holes in sure JKidd will swap them out. I've had nothing but great experiences with him thus far. Standup crew
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Old Feb 26, 2016 | 11:33 PM
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No stock sticks. Traded those in long ago. Just the DAP 5x16s i just took out. I'm running DAP 6x13s now. I'm going to swap them out tomorrow and see what happens. If there's something wrong with the 6 holes in sure JKidd will swap them out. I've had nothing but great experiences with him thus far. Standup crew
If the 6x13's are smokier than the 5x16's with the same setup, something's wrong with them.
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Old Feb 26, 2016 | 11:47 PM
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If the 6x13's are smokier than the 5x16's with the same setup, something's wrong with them.
My thoughts exactly sir. We will find out tomorrow
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