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Big Bummer! Head gasket dies 250 miles from home

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Old Jan 15, 2007 | 11:47 PM
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Big Bummer! Head gasket dies 250 miles from home

Well. Here I am, 250 miles away from home and almost to where I am going, and suddenly no heat! And then I see the temp gauge going up and when I pull over, there is oil all over the place under the hood and bubbling out of my coolant overflow bottle! dang! and a few other stronger words too...engine runs fine though, so it must not be blown into a combustion chamber...

So I managed to limp it to the first service station where I leave it in the parking lot and hitchhike the rest of the way to the ferry and finally made it to my friend's house where it is warm and there is booze and food...

So tomorrow, I need to call the shop and hope that they can work on the diesel and it can get done before thursday.

Does anyone have any warnings or advice about this situation?

Any shop recommendations in Anacortes, WA?

Help!
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 12:10 AM
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could it be the oil cooler or was it coming out of the head gasket.? just trying to help.
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 12:27 AM
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Any help is welcome. Where is the oil cooler?

I just assumed head gasket since that has always been the problem on other rigs when oil and water mix...
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 02:25 AM
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Any help is welcome. Where is the oil cooler?

I just assumed head gasket since that has always been the problem on other rigs when oil and water mix...
On the turbo side of the engine, the oil cooler is covered by the piece that you thread the oil filter onto. You'll see lots of little bolts holding the cover onto the side of the engine.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 08:10 AM
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i know it has one, saw it spoken of on here. just tore my forty horse jd loader tractor down for oil in water , told by everyone to check oil cooler. nada don't got one on this tractor. pulled liners found problem head in for machine work parts ordered. 6.2 gms cooler is in the radiator. as said above it is in the block . can't say i have seen mine.
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 10:56 AM
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I did some searching on here and found some references to blown oil coolers, and PMd a guy who had my same symptoms. he said his was the oil cooler and that a head gasket usually dumps water in the oil rather than the other way around. I haven' called a shop yet, wanted to get some help here first which I think I did..

I'm guessing that an oil cooler is going to be waaay cheaper than a head gasket. Now I just need to find an oil cooler.
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 11:12 AM
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Hay woodrat, the dealer list for it is $412.00 with a good guy discount you might be abel to get around $300.00.

make sure thay add oil before thay start it!!!!!!!
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 11:27 AM
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Yeah, the dodge dealer here told me $412 and since i am from out of town there is no "good guy" discount for me. Ugh! I guess i was wrong, it was not cheaper than a head gasket!

And so far I've only found one shop who "figured he could probably do the job" but had no idea of what I was talking about...

The diesel service shop here is marine and didn't want to deal with it
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 11:41 AM
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well, I finally found a shop who was familiar with the Cummins/Dodge combination so the tow truck has been dispatched to retirieve my truck and take it over there. I will get the verdict in a while..

That $412 is gonna hurt!
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 12:53 PM
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Maybe you can find a used one on ebay? I actually just sold one a few weeks with the cover and it sold for only $10!
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 01:01 PM
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well, I just looked and the ones that are on there right now are from newer model trucks, no buy it nows and I don't have days to wait. If I was at home, I might do that, but I am on the road, far from home and need to get home by Friday.

And given the level of major inconvenience that this thing has caused, I think a new part, even at $412, is probably the wise way to go. I'd hate to pay a shop to put a used one in and have it go again in 6 months...

But I may scan ebay in the future for a low mileage spare, especially at $10! Dang!
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 01:36 PM
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Thumbs up

your wise to go with the new one. look on the bright side, you won't have to warry about it for atleast a nether 200,000+thousand miles(thats when mine when out!)




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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 01:41 PM
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Well the shop just called and said that there was also coolant in the oil. His verdict is much worse than oil cooler. He says that I should have been running coolant additive to protect the cylinder liners from cavitation and that if he were to tear it down, he expects to find a rotted out liner.

So the verdict is dead engine needing replacement or rebuild and the prices he quoted are equivalent to buying another truck.

bad bad bad day....
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 01:52 PM
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BS............tell him to remove the oil cooler and look for his self!

THESE ENG. DO NOT HAVE LINERS IN THEM! when he removes the oil cooler(the one that the oil filter spin on) you can look derectly at the liner!

I'm not saying that the head gasket couldn't be bad BUT, my $$$$$ is still on the oil cooler........................................ is this truck an auto?




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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 01:55 PM
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I agree with Flashgordon. Evidently he doesn't know vey much about CTD's. Trust your buddies here on DTR, they won't steer you wrong.
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