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Old Jan 12, 2007 | 12:43 AM
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Amazed with the difference in power

It took a few bucks before I found out that all I needed was a new lift pump!
My upgrade happened two weeks ago from the diaphragm lift pump to a piston pump.
I tested it out with a 400-mile road trip. After replacing the LP, with all my other upgrades seemed to all finally flow together. My power is up at least 30% now. My old stock lift pump was not supplying the injection pump with enough charge. I always felt it was a fuel delivery problem.

Don’t know if any of you have ever replaced a lift pump and noticed a difference, but t happened to me and I'm pretty darn happy about it, I just found out I have a Hot Rod!
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Old Jan 12, 2007 | 03:00 AM
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Same thing happened to me. Truck idled better, pulled harder and would rev faster. Also made my injection pump a lot quieter! Gotta love proper lubrication.
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Old Jan 12, 2007 | 11:49 AM
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Something to look into. I can suck my FP down to 0 if I dont watch it, but I do have 7K on SE MO fuel, so it could need a change.

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Old Jan 12, 2007 | 11:55 AM
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Where did you get the pump? I have been looking into getting a new lift pump. What did it cost? Thanks!
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Old Jan 12, 2007 | 12:44 PM
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Thanks Gents!

I bought the Pump at the Cummins building in San Leandro.
The pump and extra parts for the pump all came to $200.

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Dunn
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Old Jan 12, 2007 | 03:42 PM
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Has anyone tried the lift pumps off ebay? I called my local Dodge dealer a couple days ago and the lift pump costs $144.00 from them. From ebay I can purchase a lift pump for $49.00. What is the difference? Are Mopar parts that much higher than Delphi or any other brand? Thanks!
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Old Jan 12, 2007 | 04:47 PM
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You guys with big injectors really ought to consider a Walbro setup instead of the piston pump. It doesn't cost much more and you WILL have good fuel pressure. It's easy to drag a piston pump down to 5 psi.
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Old Jan 12, 2007 | 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by efbeason
Has anyone tried the lift pumps off ebay? I called my local Dodge dealer a couple days ago and the lift pump costs $144.00 from them. From ebay I can purchase a lift pump for $49.00. What is the difference? Are Mopar parts that much higher than Delphi or any other brand? Thanks!
I`ve been running one since the summer, no problems so far.
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Old Jan 12, 2007 | 05:05 PM
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dave can the walbro system be used in conjunction with a stock diaphram lift pump?
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Old Jan 12, 2007 | 05:12 PM
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Yes, it would work the same way as mine. There's a check valve on the outlet of all the mechanical lift pumps.

Not to toot my own horn too much, but what I really like about my way of plumbing the fuel system is that you still have the stock setup for backup.
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Old Jan 12, 2007 | 05:15 PM
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do you keep the walbro on most of the time, or just when you are pounding it?
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Old Jan 12, 2007 | 05:20 PM
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The Walbro relay is triggered off the valet switch - so when I'm playing the Walbro is pumping. The piston pump can maintain 10 psi in valet mode, which is adequate.

There's no reason a Walbro couldn't run all the time, but I'd take a shim out of the regulator to get the fuel pressure down around 15 psi if I was to run it all the time.
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Old Jan 12, 2007 | 06:02 PM
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Just wondering... What is too much psi for the injection pump?
Can too much psi from the lift pump cause problems?
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Old Jan 12, 2007 | 06:30 PM
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Yes, you can blow out the front pump seal. Supposedly it happens between 20 and 25 psi. I have not tested this hypothesis myself...

My Walbro is regulated to 18 psi because that's what the piston pump would run going downhill. I figured if it ran that way for a year it was not too high.
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Old Jan 12, 2007 | 07:46 PM
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Let me get this all absorbed.

Wanna, you have an electric Walbro fuel pump that has it's pressure end tee-ed into the fuel system between the mechanical pump and the injection pump, such that you can run on the mechanical, and flip on the electric at will??

Do you have a Walbro link??

Why the Walbro, and not the FASS??

Thanks.
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