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1st Gen. Ram - All TopicsDiscussion for all Dodge Rams prior to 1994. This includes engine, drivetrain and non-drivetrain discussions. Anything prior to 1994 should go in here.
Of course,my 91.5 d250 ,,has sag,,been trying to find #1905 by specialty products,,they still available,or some other co. ? They are the alum. ones that go in the front ,coil springs. What-where-how much,,?
The aluminum spacers are out there, but I've only seen them on ebay - they list for chevy coils but will fit the dodge 2wd the same, as they're the same size.
Hey,,Papecat,,like your rig,,neat& clean.The reason I said alum.,,,to my understanding they just last longer.I don't want to go over stock height ,,am having a little trouble with alining front end,,top of caster adj. out as far as it will go. How does the 2" lift work out for alining?? Mine's not "BAD-BAD"but enough to cause inside tire wear( small amount). Big Thanks for reply & numbers.
Yeah I don't think the aluminum ones will ever wear out.
I haven't had it to an alignment shop yet but there seems to be plenty of adjustment there on mine, actually I haven't even driven it but around the block, still only have the downpipe installed, no exhaust.
I'd say that the truck is maybe 1-2" above the stock factory height with the 3200 lb front end/springs and 400BB/727 combo.
I think the trick is to get the sag out of your rig, and go from there. Maybe if you measured how many inches of lift it took jacking it up to the height you want or to get the upper A arms parallel or just above parallel, you can guesstimate which spacers to get based on the amount it needs to be raised up.
GOOD advice ,,should've thought about measuring( DUH!),. It's cold & raining here(s.e.okla.),but I need to get it done. Just came back from a 3000 mi. round trip,,could tell inside of tires showed some(very small amount)wear. Again ,,,Thank you.
You think the 3200# springs will make for a softer ride?
I haven't compared the current moog7226 4000 lb springs in this config yet with the stock OEM 3200 lb springs with gas v8. The 3200lb springs are too light for the cummins. You're on teh right track with the stock springs plus the aluminum spacer , it should do the trick. Any heavier spring will be rougher, and any lighter spring will sag out too much.
I actually have two trucks,,the " ugly blue& white d350 90 model and a d250 1991.5 . I'v been building the d250 for about 4yrs(man where has time gone).It's time to re-do both the front ends. The d350 had the frame cut and extended 38",and has a back seat that makes down into a bed,,it is all orig.,with the wood console over head,split seats w/flip down center w/ compartment's underneath,,x-tra lg. trans cooler under drivers seat,518 auto trans,,all elect.,windows ,,a truck rigged out like this old "BUS" today ????some where over 50,000,or more. Anyway good fortune to you on your build.OH,yea 17-19 mpg.
Were you able to find the spacers...I Finally got the 1906 metal spring spacers to lift the front on my 93 D250..My question is ...been they are basically 3/4 circle,, is it possible to take the tension off the springs and just sliding the spacers under or over the springs and then setting the truck back down on the ground?
So ended up getting the 1906 specialty metal 1 inch spacers for a 2.5-3 inch lift..anyone put these on just by compressing the springs or is it absolutely necessary to take apart the whole suspension just to get this spacers in? they are 3/4 circle so they should go around the stuff in the way like shock shaft etc..
in the manual I see they have the spring isolators on the top of the springs but I am not sure but think the metal ones go on the bottom right?
Help would be great as I am hoping to do this today without taking apart everything if It can be done that way!
I haven't compared the current moog7226 4000 lb springs in this config yet with the stock OEM 3200 lb springs with gas v8. The 3200lb springs are too light for the cummins. You're on teh right track with the stock springs plus the aluminum spacer , it should do the trick. Any heavier spring will be rougher, and any lighter spring will sag out too much.
Sounds like you've had experience with this issue and I am trying to fix mine hope you can answer a couple of things, I ended up getting the 1906 Metal specialty 1 inch spacers for a 2.5-3 inch lift..can you put these on just by compressing the springs or is it absolutely necessary to take apart the whole suspension just to get this spacers in? they are 3/4 circle so they should go around the stuff in the way like shock shaft etc..
in the manual I see they have the spring isolators on the top of the springs but I am not sure but think the metal ones go on the bottom right?
Help would be great as I am hoping to do this today without taking apart everything if It can be done that way!
Federic ,, best I remember I found a set of alum w/ the poly pads for my "91 ", d-250 on a 92 d-350 ( wrecked out ) raised up 1 1/2 " .. string lined the frt. end at home ,, 2nd set of tires are showing wear on inside w/ over 20,000 mi.on them . If I remember right the polys were on the top & alum. were on the bottom ,, but !! back then I replaced the upper & lower ball joints,, so yow,, had to pull mine down ,, floor jack will be good w / jack stands . You can rent " spring " compressors from auto stores. Hope some of this helps,, be safe.
Federic ,, best I remember I found a set of alum w/ the poly pads for my "91 ", d-250 on a 92 d-350 ( wrecked out ) raised up 1 1/2 " .. string lined the frt. end at home ,, 2nd set of tires are showing wear on inside w/ over 20,000 mi.on them . If I remember right the polys were on the top & alum. were on the bottom ,, but !! back then I replaced the upper & lower ball joints,, so yow,, had to pull mine down ,, floor jack will be good w / jack stands . You can rent " spring " compressors from auto stores. Hope some of this helps,, be safe.
whosdunit.
thanks for that..now another question... some have talked about the pickle fork for the lower ball joints but if I unscrew the nut of the end would it not come apart when I lower the jack after undoing it just from the spring pressure alone?? and did you undo the brake calipers or not to do the whole job?
Hey Fed,, I think when I do mine again ,, i'll put the floor jack under the lower a- frame and compress up as far as it will go, and use the spring compressors from my local parts store to hold the springs collapsed ,, ( have a jack stand under the frame ) then " slowly let the jack down ,, the spring's should have enough space to install the spacers ( may have to un bolt the lower shock bolts and push the shock up). And the lower A- frame may come down if you remove the lower nut,, maybe with " dangerous force ",, be safe.