Been watching for a 97 or 98 4x4 to put a motor and trans into. Sorry if this topic has been beaten to death. How much work is this conversion, really?
Will the Cummins bolt up to the V10's clutch / flywheel/ transmission?
Anybody done this conversion that can share some insight? V10 trucks are pretty cheap and easy to find in good condition. 1997, 98 Cummins powered trucks are VERY hard to find without a million miles on them.... Thanks, H.

 

i know that the v10's transmissions are different from the cummins, manual and autos. they both can be convereted to work w/ the cummins motor, but it won't be a straight swap

James

 

I'm not a smart guy so this may be wrong but I do think the V10 auto trans is the same, just has a different converter and shift points. And the Nv4500 is the same from a v10 and a diesel.
Which is the opposite statement from the above post, so you may want to research that a little more.
I would enjoy the the driver side drop front 60 but don't want to give up my king pins, so I'll stick with the exhaust hitting the 205 and frame.

 

I'm also pretty sure the V10 truck use the exact same nv4500 with slightly different trans that can be made work. Although the plate on the rear on of the Gen I motor won't bolt up with either.

Bottom line unless you really like a project your probably much farther ahead to just buy a cummins powered gen II if thats what you want. The money saved would be minimal and time spent would be huge.

 

if you do it can I call dibs on buying the remains of your current truck? It looks good.

 

Bah. I made the mistake of puttin a 4500 in my truck. I used the factory bell housing and the A.A. kit. Worked just fine.

 

mistake? I was thinking about trying to find one.

 

Thanks you guys. Been reading a LOT on the internet today (instead of working) on the subject of a V10 truck with a 12V engine install. Seems that, unless you've got a wrecked, same year donor, with all the features you want, sitting right there, it just ain't worth the effort. My dream truck is a 4x4 with an extra cab that has a door in the back for the dog, and a MANUAL trans. We're not supposed to tow in OD?!? Well, you better like going 55 cause that's all the old Blue Moose likes to do with the button pushed. I run the OD pulling the 5th wheel on the downhill and some flats with an eagle eye on the trans temp gauge, knowing full well that the auto tranny in this truck is by FAR the weakest link. With 103k on it, its on borrowed time. Guess it just bums me out that this great truck won't do what I want it to do: 65 on the freeway pulling a dinky 23 foot 5th wheel. Its sure got enough power.... I hate to sell it but sometimes out West ya just need 4x4 and a stick. Long down hills are a drag with an auto too cause you're sitting on the brakes as it freewheels to infinity and beyond! Found a clean '97 with everything I want except the Cummins for 6500 bucks. Just a thought.... Thanks for the replies. H.

 

I've hauled 15,000lbs in OD more than once(sure others have done more). I do have a large trans cooler but if you have a gauge just keep an eye on it. The trans is underrated. I'm pretty sure mines original and been used for towing it's entire life now at 315000 miles with the pump maxed out.

 

Well if you look though the local craigslist ad's there are a few compleat Pee Pump engines. If one were you pick up that clean 97 and an engine he could have his dream truck then dump the 93 and gain back a lot of his money. If you have the money and the time then I don't see why you wouldn't build your dream truck.

 

I think I'm lost are you saying putting an NV4500 in your truck was a mistake as in you don't like it?

I am working on what would be considered a waste by many but I like a project. It will likely not be cheaper than just going out and buying a nice version but again I like the project(most of the time). So don't take it as me saying don't do it if you want to just be aware there are likely cheaper options if your not dead set on the specific combo.

 

As for my statement of the 4500 being a mistake. I'm not a fan of it. It seems like it takes forever to change gears and the 2-3 ratio is too close and the 3-4 ratio is to far. Well for me it is. I can row my crew cab with the Getrag quick. The 93 with the 4500 not so much. I know lots of guys talk about how much more power and how much more weight you can haul with them. But my trucks tow next to nothing and when they do it's low and slow driving. And I've got lots of miles out all of my Getrags. I've gone through them and found that input shaft and counter shaft preload seems to be the problem. Once that's fixed then they seem fairly tough. I don't know if it's a factory build problem with the preload?
Just my opinion, and that doesn't mean much, so if you want one then by all means do it.

 

I have a '95 1 ton E/C with a V-10 5 speed.
It's probably going to end up with a VE'ed 24 valve in front of the NV4500.

It's not hard if you have the parts, or the connections for getting them cheap.

The big part is knowing what will interchange and having the patience for it.

Mark.

 

the auto trans itself is the same, save for the gov weights which control the shift points, from what i recall, so what i was trying to say i guess is that, while it is the same trans, w/out modification it will not work w/ the cummins motor.

I think you're correct on the v10 version of the nv4500, it should be the same, I was thinking of the one used behind the 360, i believe it would require a different input shaft, easy to take care of tho.

James