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3" to 3.5" exhaust AND muffler options

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Old Jul 8, 2004 | 12:51 PM
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Since I'll be buying the tires out of town, I'm kind of stuck buying from a chain type store in order to make any necessary warranty claims a little easier. I'd hate to have to drive 240 miles one way to make a warranty claim on a $150 tire. That just doesn't sound very cost effective to me. So, as much as I hate the thought of it, I might do the Wal-Mart or Costco thing.

Now I'm just deciding on whether I should run the stock 235/85-16's, or if I should go for some 265/75-16's. They're the same overall diameter. What is the width of the stock steel wheels of the 1st generation trucks? Unfortunately, I can't just look at my truck and measure the clearance between the inside sidewall and the leaf springs, inside fender well, etc. I don't want the tires to stick out past the fenders, nor do I want any rubbing.
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Old Jul 8, 2004 | 02:17 PM
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Roy, walmart or costco would be a good idea warranty wise. Personally I wouldn't put anything less than load range E on a truck that may be used for heavy hauling. I've had good luck with the waynes in paso too apache. The waynes in lompoc seems ok too but I prefer big brand. The odd thing about my milage apache is that it doesn't seem to matter much how I drive. I tried several tanks where I was driving like a little old lady and the best I got was 15. If I'm on the throttle all the time I get about 14.5. I got slightly less hauling that trailer. My drag link is a little loose so the truck wanders and needs contant correction to keep it straight so that could add to it a little too I suppose. I was waiting for my neighbors rims when he upgraded to his alcoas before I did tires, drag link, and alignment but my rubber is getting thin and my neighbor bought a new 2004 1 ton so will probably not put the alcoas on the 96. Guess I better get to the tire store with Roy hahaha
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Old Jul 8, 2004 | 02:19 PM
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I might not be coming up this weekend afterall. The exhaust push rods are bent. Check it out in the other threads.
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Old Jul 9, 2004 | 12:53 AM
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Bad news... but it explains why you were running hot. I called Larry and he said that he ordered the pushrods and might still be able to get it together for you by tommorrow if there isn't any other issues. He said that when he rotated the engine over it pinned 2-3 degrees from where he thought it should for TDC.
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Old Jul 10, 2004 | 08:48 AM
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Worse news. Thanks for the update last night Jeff. But since he has to pull the cam, he can verify the timing is spot on, and maybe even do a KDP job for me.

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How many different ways are there to do the KDP fix? Is there a TSB on it?



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Old Jul 10, 2004 | 11:59 AM
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He should just tab it while he's in there. Cummins TSB is in this thread.
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Old Jul 10, 2004 | 08:39 PM
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Im confused as to why you would not want 4". with a turboed engine than the bigger the better. If its noise, than run a good muffler, I built my own 4" system and installed a Walker-Dynomax muffler out of the Jegs catolog. Current part number is 289-17225 for a 4" in and out. they also make a 3 1/2 part number 289-17224. they are 73.99 each.
They make a 3" for 65.99 part number 289-17223
these mufflers are straight through like a glass pack but much better quality. Mine has been on for about 2 years and it still works fine.
Good luck
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Old Jul 10, 2004 | 11:34 PM
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I thought there was such a thing as oversizing your exhaust. Is that not the case with a turbo diesel?
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Old Jul 10, 2004 | 11:40 PM
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5" is too big for a low HP truck, apparently the exhaust cools off too much before it gets out of the pipe and causes backpressure. We 1st genners don't have to deal with such problems, the biggest kits we can get are 4".
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Old Jul 11, 2004 | 12:02 AM
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So, a 4" isn't too large for a non-intercooled truck? I'm kind of limited to the power I can make since I don't have the intercooler. My shop said I should be putting out about 200hp.

I don't mind going 4" as long as it fits between the t-case and frame nicely, and doesn't overcool my exhaust. I also need to find a muffler that makes just a touch more sound than a stock muffler. Quiet when cruising, but a nice throaty sound when pouring on the fuel.
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Old Jul 11, 2004 | 06:59 AM
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4" will be fine. You could go with the muffler BigExhaust.com sells or a Donaldson for a medium duty truck (quieter). Some of the 3rd gen guys are running the Donaldson for a deeper, less "ricey" sound. Not sure what that would sound like on a 1st gen, my straight pipe sounds like an enaraged bull when I wind it up.
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Old Jul 11, 2004 | 12:09 PM
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Believe it or not, the 4in exhaust fits nicely around the T-case and frame. I seriously had my doubts when it was time to install, but it fit good with about a little over an inch of clearance between the t-case and frame.

Here's a tip for those who install it yourselves...Remove the downpipe and install the piece of pipe that goes around the t-case from the front of the truck. After I tried to install it from the back side of the t-case, I realized it wasnt gonna go that way. Fought it for about 30 min trying to slide it in from behind, but after I removed the downpipe and slid it in from the front, it was real easy.

I'll post some pictures if anyone wants to see them...

Cody
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Old Jul 11, 2004 | 04:45 PM
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Yes, please do.
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Old Jul 11, 2004 | 07:25 PM
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Here are some pics of the exhaust around the transfer case area...
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Old Jul 11, 2004 | 07:28 PM
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The pipe never touches and has atleast 1 inch clearance at any spot.
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