Yeah, and then you can get a new pump factory direct for the low-low price of only $2,500!

 

I am not a big supporter of Walmart, just a poor minimum wage earner who has to make every nickel count.

That being said, there is an extensive nearly 100-page thread over at another Dodge diesel site that drew so much interest that some of the guys sent samples of several brands of two-stroke to an independent lab for analysis.

The hands down winner of the lab results for the purpose of mixing in diesel fuel was Walmart SuperTech Universal TC-W3 (which is not easy to find, but does occassionally show up on the shelves).

The second choice was Pennzoil Multi-Purpose TC-W3.

Third was Walmart OutBoard TC-W3 (it has a higher ash content than the Universal and we don't really need the ash for our purposes).

Fourth was Pennzoil OutBoard TC-W3.



Bear in mind that these tests were to determine the suitability of these oils as lubricant additive for injection-pumps.

None of the two-stroke/two-cycle oils were ever really intended as fuel additives in diesel engines; some smart individual just stumbled upon their effectiveness in lubing injection-pumps, over and above any of the specific diesel fuel treatments, most of which are nothing more than colored paint thinner that actually decreases lubricity of the fuel.




I am not sure why most manufacturers offer both Universal/Multi-Purpose and OUTBOARD oils, both rated TC-W3, with the difference being the ones labeled OUTBOARD have a considerably higher ash content; maybe it has something to do with the water.

 

I have a bottle of the wal- mart supertech outboard 2-cycle tc-w3 in front of me right now and on the back of the bottle it says a " high quality ashless tc-w3 2-cycle engine oil." That being said i thought ashless means no ash at all? How can they state ashless if there is any ash in it?

 

Walmart supertech universal tc-w3 seems to be the preferred choice but i have never seen it at walmart. Does it also state ashless on the bottle like the supertech outboard tc-w3 does? Where can i find this 100 page study on additives?

 

if you have water injection, ashless is not a concern.

 

I just looked at my bottle at home and it states "ashless" outboard 2 stroke oil from wally world... tcw-3 or whatever the rating is...

 

You know, they say that. And the "experts" tell me that ULSD is perfectly safe and even GOOD for my engine and fuel system. Personal experience and talking to old people who know about these things tells me otherwise. I used to buy Cheerios at Sams Club and I always got heartburn from them. When I bought my Cheerios at the grocery store, I never got heartburn. Coincidence? Perhaps.

But I think that the reason manufactures sell so cheap to Wal-Mart is because the Wal-Mart version is a watered down version, stripped of anything not completely essential in order to bring costs down. I think for just about every product, there is the Wal-Mart version and the everywhere else version. Like I said, only bugwash at Wal-Mart gets into my truck. And thats because bugwash really is all the same. Except I noticed that Wal-Mart's version of bugwash is no longer rated to -30F. Its now rated at 0F. So they are even skimping on the antifreeze. But thats something I can compensate for on my own. Plenty of used antifreeze laying around here to mix in.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion on WM. Do whatever works for you. But I still don't trust them. I'd rather spend a $1 more here and there then put in a new engine.

 

Is there anywhere I can see these test results or this thread you speak of? Sounds like there is alot of good info for digestion therein. If lab tests show WM oil is safe in the tank, then its safe. I'm just saying I don't trust WM and would be very, very careful about putting anything from there in my truck.

 

Who says the outboard stuff has more ash? I repeat-it says ashless on the bottle and ashless means there is no ash what so ever,right?

 

It is amongst these somewhere :

http://www.cumminsforum.com/forum/al...ls-lubricants/

I thought I had it saved, but can't find it.

I read the whole thing (it took several nights).


Here is a short one about using it in extreme cold.

http://www.cumminsforum.com/forum/al...il-winter.html

MOPARMAN??? is sort of the expert on the subject.

 

Actually, Walleyworld has three grades of bugwash: +32, 0, and -20.

Not that it matters. Much.

 

We seem to have lots of bugs splattering the glass between 0 and -20; I guess I better check that stuff out.

 

Well, there is road spray in the winter...

 

I been using the -20 stuff with 2 bottles of HEET for W/M injection.

 

bump...

Maybe this is kind of nonrelated but I'm using the powerservice stuff in mine.

Do I need to add 2 stroke oil to my fuel?