12 Valve Engine and Drivetrain Talk about the 12V engine and drivetrain here. This is for 1994-1998.5 engine and drivetrain discussion only.

Turbo "Bark"

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Nov 27, 2008 | 05:55 PM
  #1  
murphy41's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 30
Likes: 0
From: Utah
Turbo "Bark"

Ok so what is turbo bark, as ive heard it called ?? I know what the sound is but what is the turbo actually doing ? Cause my truck tends to do it sometimes, and just wandering if its normal, if its preventable?, or if its my driving doing it ?? I've heard its very hard on turbos and cause severe damage ? And my turbo is new and wanting to address the problem before i regret it.
Reply
Old Nov 27, 2008 | 06:20 PM
  #2  
bcool's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 72
Likes: 0
From: Boise, ID
Its called compressor surge and its the force of air coming back through the intake at your turbo's compressor wheel. It causes the wheel to shudder back and forth and that's what you're hearing as a noise. It eventually wears down the bearing and seal leading to complete turbo failure (i.e. compressor wheel meeting the side of the turbine housing or destroying the oil seal. This is why most turboed cars have a blow off valve. The engines vacuum opens the valve on the charge pipe the allow excess pressure to be be blown off instead of slowly destroying the turbo.
Reply
Old Nov 27, 2008 | 06:52 PM
  #3  
infidel's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 14,672
Likes: 9
From: Montana
Bark is easy to control, just don't let off the accelerator rapidly while at more than 10 psi boost.
Reply
Old Nov 27, 2008 | 07:17 PM
  #4  
murphy41's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 30
Likes: 0
From: Utah
Originally Posted by bcool
Its called compressor surge and its the force of air coming back through the intake at your turbo's compressor wheel. It causes the wheel to shudder back and forth and that's what you're hearing as a noise. It eventually wears down the bearing and seal leading to complete turbo failure (i.e. compressor wheel meeting the side of the turbine housing or destroying the oil seal. This is why most turboed cars have a blow off valve. The engines vacuum opens the valve on the charge pipe the allow excess pressure to be be blown off instead of slowly destroying the turbo.
So would a blow off valve help ? And do they make one big enough for big diesel turbos ? at 45 psi ??
Reply
Old Nov 27, 2008 | 09:13 PM
  #5  
Tate's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 7,780
Likes: 0
From: Airdrie, Alberta
Barking the turbo is stalling the rotating assembly. When you are at full bore, you have pressure across the turbine, driving the compressor, building pressure as well. Let off the throttle, you no longer have the pressure to drive the turbine, and the built up pressure in the intake side wants to escape the easiest way. It rapidly slows or stops the whole thing and flows out the suction side of the compressor. Thats a lot of momentum to absorb, and it doesn't 'brake' on the turbine side, so that wants to continue at the previous speed. Leads to shaft breakage.

Since diesels do not throttle air, the pressure differential across the butterfly in a gasser that the blow off would use as a signal doesn't exist. BD has an electronic version of one for what was $600. Not sure if they are available for the 12v's. It was called the BD Turbo Guard.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
06RED-BARON
3rd Gen High Performance and Accessories (5.9L Only)
49
Dec 12, 2017 12:14 AM
Totallyrad
Other
86
Oct 5, 2013 10:15 PM
1992gen1_fan
1st Gen. Ram - All Topics
8
Apr 28, 2011 06:50 PM
PEAKSTRYDE
Suggestions, Comments and Site Questions
1
Oct 11, 2007 04:20 PM
OldRam
1st Gen. Ram - All Topics
13
Feb 16, 2006 06:41 AM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:39 AM.