12 Valve Engine and Drivetrain Talk about the 12V engine and drivetrain here. This is for 1994-1998.5 engine and drivetrain discussion only.

Tps And Auto Transmission

Old Dec 6, 2004 | 07:13 PM
  #1  
JARHEAD's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 381
Likes: 0
From: Bay Minette,Al.
Tps And Auto Transmission

My transmission has been acting up for quite some time now. it will go in and out of o/d and back to third a few times before it will catch lockup. The shop back in St. pete replaced a couple of things, shift solenoid and something else. Obviously that did not work. then they wanted to rebuild the unit. went to shop today, where i live now, and he really does not think it is a complete bad tranny, he is wanting to replace the tps depending on the diagnostic. does any of this sound familier to any of you??? The tranny has about 37k on it.

Kip
Reply
Old Dec 6, 2004 | 08:10 PM
  #2  
durasmack's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 688
Likes: 0
From: Maineville, Ohio
I have a very similar problem.... mine will shift between 2 and 3 and between 3 and od at random before it will settle on a gear to sit in. it is less noticeable when there is a lot of power put through it (it will shift fine if you lay into it all the way up to about 55mph) but when you are giving it medium throttle, it will jump between gears.

If any of the transmission experts on this forum have any suggestions, i would really appreciate the input. (both of these problems seem similar)
Reply
Old Dec 6, 2004 | 09:05 PM
  #3  
CarlJensen's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 755
Likes: 0
From: St Augustine, Florida
The TPS is very easy to remove and clean, two screws,, remove three wire connector and that,s it. Clean it out with brake cleaner or contact cleaner while moving the wiper with a screwdriver. Check with a meter for smooth resistance change. If it's smooth it's OK, no jumps or dead spots. You can't get it on wrong if you install with connector down. Clean connector and seal with dielectric grease. Pull TPS wires out of loom they are in and route seperatly to prevent noise on the wires, a problem with some.
Reply
Old Dec 6, 2004 | 09:11 PM
  #4  
JARHEAD's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 381
Likes: 0
From: Bay Minette,Al.
Thanks for the reply. First of all, it is behind the pump, correct?? Next, on checking the resistance, It is with the vehicles battery turned on but not running correct?

Kip
Reply
Old Dec 6, 2004 | 09:15 PM
  #5  
CarlJensen's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 755
Likes: 0
From: St Augustine, Florida
If you are looking at the injector pump it is just a little below it outside of it. TPS is located at the throttle pivot point with the throttle return spring right behind it. Has two screws holding it with a small connector at the bottom. Yes, it would be slightly to the back of the pump. Once you have it off what you are checking is operation of the wiper inside of it. No power required, it's a resistance check. The wiper gets dirty and needs to be cleaned. The TPS sends on a very small voltage to the computer telling it where the throttle is.
Reply
Old Dec 7, 2004 | 10:09 AM
  #6  
Dufrain's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 338
Likes: 0
you can slot the holes out and adjust it a little to,I had to do it on my 95 auto
Reply
Old Dec 7, 2004 | 05:34 PM
  #7  
CarlJensen's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 755
Likes: 0
From: St Augustine, Florida
Sorry JARHEAD, the TPS is just at the front end of the pump,,not the back. Got turned around in my head. Yes you can slot the holes but a very small movement of the TPS gives big results so a little at a time does it.
Reply
Old Dec 7, 2004 | 05:43 PM
  #8  
kandgo's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 1,075
Likes: 0
https://www.dieseltruckresource.com/...&highlight=tps Read on this for cleaning and adjusting, Goodluck,,,,Rick
Reply
Old Dec 7, 2004 | 06:02 PM
  #9  
infidel's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 14,672
Likes: 9
From: Montana
TPS is the square box in the foreground of this picture
Reply
Old Dec 7, 2004 | 08:04 PM
  #10  
pappyman's Avatar
Chapter President
 
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 1,190
Likes: 0
From: Waynesboro Ga ...Haul custom Motorcycles
I did the opening up of a TPS 8 months ago that kandgo posted the link to, because my tranny was hunting badly and rather then replace it again I wanted to see what makes them tick
The first thing I found was contact cleaner sprayed around the shaft does no good because it cant get past the shaft seal into the contacts inside the TPS
Since I drilled the hole into the back side of the TPS 8 months ago after spraying it with contact cleaner I have not had any more troubles with my tranny hunting
If it starts acting up again I can simply remove the silicone from the drilled hole and respray it
Reply
Old Dec 7, 2004 | 11:21 PM
  #11  
durasmack's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 688
Likes: 0
From: Maineville, Ohio
to get into the tps, where does the hole need to be placed to avoid damage to inside components?
Reply
Old Dec 8, 2004 | 06:04 AM
  #12  
pappyman's Avatar
Chapter President
 
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 1,190
Likes: 0
From: Waynesboro Ga ...Haul custom Motorcycles
Originally posted by durasmack
to get into the tps, where does the hole need to be placed to avoid damage to inside components?
Look at the post I did it will give the hole location and size

https://www.dieseltruckresource.com/...&highlight=tps
Reply
Old Dec 8, 2004 | 10:00 AM
  #13  
CarlJensen's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 755
Likes: 0
From: St Augustine, Florida
My TPS has a removable back now. I just cut it right at the ridge on the back, open it up, clean it and reseal the back on with silicone. Works well and nothing else can get in through a hole. I guess you could seal the hole the same way.
Reply
Old Dec 8, 2004 | 06:09 PM
  #14  
stone's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 42
Likes: 0
i wish i has seen this before, esp the details on it. i just bought a tps a month ago. looks like a wasted 220 bucks. btw it works way better when it gets pluged in when you change them
Reply
Old Dec 8, 2004 | 09:16 PM
  #15  
durasmack's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 688
Likes: 0
From: Maineville, Ohio
Originally posted by stone
i wish i has seen this before, esp the details on it. i just bought a tps a month ago. looks like a wasted 220 bucks. btw it works way better when it gets pluged in when you change them

I assume it took you a while to figure out that you didnt plug yours in when you got a new one?!?!?! I've been down that road.... more than once....
Reply

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:25 AM.