Before you go off on animal, please do not dissregard the statment that followed the one you took offence to &quot;I also was ignorant as to its operation until some research was done thanks to a DTT discussion on stator operation&quot; This indicates that he is not exsalting himself, nor is he insulting anyone else. Animal only explained the path he took to arrive at his new opinion. <br>Lets not be so touchy.

 

Rammin On and Jack Thorpe:<br><br>Thank you for your comments!<br><br>--------<br>John_P

 

Today I ordered a valve body from suncoast convertors. Will install this weekend if received. Will order series 35 covertor in a month or so. Need more overtime and overdrive. 8)

 

Might as well jump in the fray here, and relate the TC I was using. Just before the ******* rebuilt my trans, I installed one of the latest BD TC and was very happy with it on my stock 12V. I got use to it, then when the ******* replaced my tranny under warranty, it went back in with a stock TC. What a difference from stock to a good aftermarket converter. It's like night and day comparison. I personally chose one of the TC that had the billet front to get away from distortion that seems to plague the stamped cover converters. I know the people at BD are very helpful and will not try to oversell you as well. I think if you stay with any of the major players, you can't go wrong, it's just how hard the wallet gets hit. I had originally wanted the TC with a low stall, but was encouraged to go with one for my application, so I could get my 5th wheel moving from a dead stop while parked on a hill. If to tight, the engine can't move the load, so use the manufacturer's technical staff for your truck use.<br>Good luck on whatever you decide, it ultimately comes down to what you feel good about for the dollars you spent.

 

Jack Thorpe,

I don’t even know where to begin with you, you claim to have an unbiased site but jump anyone and everyone for their opinion if it differs from yours.

As to John not mentioning the stator you are correct, I did, and he countered my statement first. I don’t care if John is the smartest guy on earth, his statement countering what I said gave me the impression he didn’t understand what I was saying about the stator. So I supportively supplied documentation so he could better understand my meaning, the same way others did for me to help me further my knowledge. As to the apology, again I have nothing to apologize for.


So as it looks like my minimal knowledge isn’t needed, I’ll take my leave of this unbiased site and go where my minimal knowledge will be appreciated. I hope you all have a good day and learn a lot, since you have so much knowledge here other opinions are not needed.

What I have noticed here is everyone that jumped on me for no good reason has ATS modifications, and the only support came from someone objective without ATS modifications, go figure.

 

______________________________________<br>Quote by &quot;Animal&quot;:<br><br>&quot;I didn't call you stupid, if you don't understand<br>the difference between &quot;ignorance&quot; and &quot;stupidity&quot;<br>that isn't my fault.&quot;<br><br>______________________________ ________<br><br>There you go again &quot;Animal!&quot; Obviously, you <br>&quot;interpret&quot; things a little different than the<br>rest of us. BTW,.....when I &quot;countered&quot; your<br>statement initially, I wanted &quot;turbospl311&quot;<br>to understand that NOT EVERONE may have had a <br>a problem towing heavy loads with the &quot;Pro-Torque&quot; <br>Converter like you said you did!! <br><br>_______________________________<br>Quote by &quot;Animal&quot;:<br><br>&quot;It (Pro-Torque Converter) worked well<br>for daily driving but worked poorly for heavy<br>towing.&quot;<br>________________________ ________<br><br>That was NOT my experience!<br>Many Dodge CTD owners have used the so<br>called &quot;milled stator&quot; converters from many<br>of the major manafacturers with no problems<br>whatsoever! Are they as good as the DTT<br>or ATS converters? Probably not,.....but<br>for someone with a limited budget I think<br>they are good alternative regardless of what<br>the so called &quot;experts&quot; think. &quot;Inspector&quot; posted<br>he had good luck with his BD converter and I <br>know there are others who have them too.<br><br>---------<br>John_P

 

I feel the love. makes me want to :'( :'( : ;D<br>DM01

 

dodgeman:<br><br>I'll bet it makes you happy you have a manual <br>transmission, huh??? ;D<br><br>--------<br>John_P

 

[quote author=John_P link=board=16;threadid=9425;start=15#92358 date=1042648225]
dodgeman:

I'll bet it makes you happy you have a manual
transmission, huh??? ;D

--------
John_P
[/quote]
OOOOOOYEA
but lets not start on clutches. that could get me in trouble.

DM01

 

Well, quoting animals post, I deleted some of it by accident, sorry. If you want to repost the first portion of it, feel free. I meant to quote it, not modify it. I hit the wrong button. either way, my response is in the next post.

 

<br><br>Actually, you're wrong. I know quite a few people on the site who's opinion differs from mine, and I never shut them down. Take Don M for instance. He and I don't agree on a lot of issues, but I almost never shut him down because Don can present his opinion intelligently without bashing on other people all the time. The only ones I shut down, or close threads on are those who can't seem to understand the rules of the site. I have always said, and I believe this still holds true that you can put your opinion out there as much as you want as long as you don't go bashing on people or start a brand war etc. I won't remove your post. BUT, once you start in on someone like that, it's gone. AlipneRam is another great example of someone who can present his opinion on something all day long. Guess what? I have never removed one of his posts. Not once.<br><br>I personally don't care about this issue one way or the other because it doesn't affect me. Your point is therefore irrelevent.<br><br><br><br><br>Interesting. I don't see where he countered your statement at all except to say that he's had good luck towing with the product.<br><br><br><br><br>See what I said above. You can state your opinion all day long. I gave you two examples of people who's opinions are stated all the time, without posts being removed etc. They do it respectfully. They don't get censored for that very reason, no matter if I agree with them or not. To this day, I do not get why it's so hard for people to understand this.<br><br><br><br><br>Sounds like another vast, right wing conspiracy doesn't it? : <br>

 

[quote author=Animal link=board=16;threadid=9425;start=0#91811 date=1042539933]<br> Read the link below for theory of operation. <br><br>http://www.howstuffworks.com/torque-converter.htm<br><br>[/quote]<br><br>Haven't even paid that much attention to this thread, I try to avoid the Tranny and Oil threads, just peruse a bit here and there.<br>I have to say though, that link is a very good read.<br>I was quite unknowledgeable(sp) about how automatic transmissions worked.<br>I read the Torque-converter stuff, then the Automatic transmission stuff, then the manual stuff, very good read.<br>Worth bookmarking the whole site.<br><br>phox

 

<br><br>When you change the color scheme to purple, i'm outta' here! <br><br>

 

[quote author=TPilaske link=board=16;threadid=9425;start=15#92573 date=1042681717]<br><br><br>When you change the color scheme to purple, i'm outta' here! <br>[/quote]<br><br>You are a bad bad man, Tony.

 

So lets say you have 400 HP, pretty easy to make huh! How do the clutch pack hold up under stock pressures, lets use 65 PSI base as an example, are we looking at the everything or just the converter, converters have centrifugal force working for them don't they?