schamran

So this cannot be done on a 2000 up, or a 3rd gen for that matter?

tow-it-all

Very nice write up! I plan on doing this mod when ever my unit bearings begin to fail. Which probably wont be too much longer!

schamran

Bump...

Bomer Tom

You can do swaps like this on the newer trucks, but not exactly because the breaks are different. Here is a link of a guy doing a similar swap on the 2000-2007 front ends. Only instead of re-drilling the spindle like I did he re-drilled the knuckle to match the spindle.
https://www.dieseltruckresource.com/d...light=Ford+hub

Hope this is helpful

tom

schamran

Thanks, but the link doesn't work. lol

blackimpala

This guy says it can be done on 2000- 2007.

https://www.dieseltruckresource.com/...light=Ford+hub

Floyd

Bomer Tom

So i just did this conversion on my 94 and the ttb 50 roters worked perfect. I lined them up with the 78-79 roters i had gotten and they were exactly the same so i returned the 78-79 ones to the parts store and am running the original ttb 50 ones. If you are doing this swap and the ttb roters are still good id check this could make it even more affordable . This time all i had to buy was new u-joints making this swap dang near free

Bomer Tom

My 94 is leved on 35's and everyting cleers perficly fine, it really dosent make it much wider. on both of my trucks it is hardly even noticable.

Diesel4blood

O, what is TTB? Wouldn't it be easier to swap in a 4X4 front axle from a 1993 and earlier into a newer Dodge? I mean that way you could also use the NP 205 Transfer case too!

Bomer Tom

TTB stands for Twin Traction Beam. Or twin i beam as it’s commonly called. It came in ford trucks from 1980- the late 90's sometime and is super common. The parts are very cheap and easy to find. (I got given most of the parts for both of my conversions). And yes you could swap in an earlier kingpin 60 and a 205 but that is going to be a lot more costly and time consuming. And while the kingpins are stronger the ball joint front ends have a better turning radius which is nice. Also honestly i like the 241 better than the 205 in this application; they have a much better low range and are lighter. If they can hold up to 1,000 horsepower drag and pulling trucks, i don’t think I’m going to break it. This is just my 2 cents
Tom

Diesel4blood

Thanks Tom! Yeah, I guess I just got used to the NP 205 in my older power wagon! I started a thread about driving up the ALCAN and asked for suggestions to make. the truck a bit tougher. I'm going to be pulling a 35 foot travel trailer and want to make sure any weak links are taken care of before we go up.

I curreently have an automatic trans with the standard duty NV 241. I guess that would make it a DLD model.

The older Ford I Beams called Twin Traction Beams is new toi me!

Bomer Tom

No prob. And oh I see that’s really cool. I would defiantly suggest doing this or a similar mod before your trip, that road would be a killer to your unit bearings and that would be a really crappy thing to have go out on you up there! Or at least make sure your units are in good shape! Also Id check on your ball joints and u-joints. About the 205 I get ya. You have to love the sheer toughness of those things!! In my option your t-case will probably be ok especially behind the automatic, but defiantly check it for excess slop and make sure it if full of fluid and working well before you leave.
On that adventure id say defiantly have a very good set of tools and good bin of spare parts!
Good luck with the truck and the trip!

Diesel4blood

My question exactly!

Diesel4blood

What are unit bearings? Transfer case?

Bomer Tom

Unit bearings are what the front wheel bearings in these trucks are called. They are one big sealed bearing and they suck because when they fail you lose a tire. Also they are very costly to replace. in doing a hub conversion you get rid of them and replace them with the older style cone wheel Barings which as long as you keep them greased will last virtually forever. And sorry about the transfer case thing i was saying you have to love how tough the 205's are. And that i think your 241 DLD should be ok.

Now about the dodge parts, i know for a fact you could not use the older style knuckle because they are king pin and the newer ones are ball joint. As far as the spindles and the rest of the outers go they might work. It would just be a matter of trying it. I know for a fact you would have to re-drill the spindles like i did. This is because the older dodge knuckle had a 5 or 6 bolt pattern to bolt the spindle to the knuckle. Where the newer style has a 4 bolt pattern as you can see from my write up.

The reason i used the Ford TTB parts is because they are cheap and very easy to find. trying to get those parts off an older dodge Dana 60 it is going to be much more expensive.

I hope this helps to cleeer things up for you guys.