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Old Sep 18, 2005 | 05:11 PM
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fuel shut off solenoid

Before I go and drop some $$$$ on a new solenoid I would like to make sure it is bad.My truck will not start unless I hold up the solenoid.I get power to where the solenoid plugs in.Power to the red wire with the key on and power to the white(center) while cranking.


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Old Sep 18, 2005 | 07:45 PM
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I've worked on a lot of solenoid problems and have never found one bad solenoid except when the starter contacts stuck and visibly burned up the solenoid. The solenoid is a simple heavy duty unit that should last longer than the rest of the truck. I'd venture to say that more than 99% of solenoids are replaced needlessly.

I would remove the solenoid and clean it up then test with a wire straight from the battery positive to the red/violet wire and another to ground. If the solenoid lifts up your problem is elsewhere. You could be getting a voltage reading at the solenoid but not enough amps to lift it due to a bad relay or a corroded blue fusible link at the battery.
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Old Sep 18, 2005 | 09:55 PM
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Thanks infidel. I pull the solenoid and the boot is rotted.going to clean it up and give it a shot.
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 10:51 AM
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My solenoid was indeed bad soon after I bought the truck. I had replaced the relay earlier, but it started acting up a few months later. My '98 doesn't have the fusible link, so that's not it..

The boot on my old one was indeed rotted badly, and no amount of cleaning brought it back to life (bench testing)

I think not keeping the boot in good shape will allow the solenoid to be damaged... at least it did on my truck..
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Old Sep 27, 2005 | 12:28 AM
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If you guys are talking about what i ithink you're talking about, there's a guy somewhere that sells HD solenoid contacts.
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Old Sep 27, 2005 | 07:22 AM
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David.Your talking about the starter contacts. The fuel shutoff solenoid doesn't have contacts. Like infidel said, I've never seen a bad solenoid either. The boot rots and lets trash in. A good cleaning and a new boot will usually take care of that problem. The relay can give a lot more trouble than the solenoid. If the pull circuit and hold circuit work, that's all that's there.

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Old Sep 27, 2005 | 10:17 AM
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Sometimes if the boot has been missing for awhile the cleanup can be quite involved, the inner barrel can be full of rust, a small round wire brush is necessary. I use the kind that you can turn with a cordless drill.
A very thin coating of silicone grease on the plunger will also help
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Old Sep 27, 2005 | 10:53 AM
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My solenoid also has a rotted boot. I have cleaned it to keep it going, but a new boot would fix everything. In this discussion, it is suggested that the old boot can be replaced. From my observations, it cannot be replaced, but if I am wrong, smack me and set me straight. Where can I get a new boot?. It would be great to fix and not have to replace the solenoid.
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Old Sep 27, 2005 | 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by turbo thom
David.Your talking about the starter contacts. The fuel shutoff solenoid doesn't have contacts. Like infidel said, I've never seen a bad solenoid either. The boot rots and lets trash in. A good cleaning and a new boot will usually take care of that problem. The relay can give a lot more trouble than the solenoid. If the pull circuit and hold circuit work, that's all that's there.

..Preston..
Yeah, I shoulda paid more atten...but the HD starter sol contacts are nice...
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Old Sep 27, 2005 | 02:12 PM
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Baja.......Why wouldn't it be replacable? Take the solenoid off. Cut the zip tie, and off the boot, or whats left of it, comes. Get the new one, from slip in on, new zip tie and there you are. Now was that so hard?
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Old Sep 27, 2005 | 02:58 PM
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Thanks for the advice, which a lot of us are here for, but I could use a little less of your attitude.
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Old Sep 27, 2005 | 07:24 PM
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p/n for replacement boot?

Is there a replacement boot available?

Mine is still OK but it will go bad eventually and, since apparently a good boot helps keep the solenoid working, it would be nice to be proactive for a change.

I figure a length of bicycle innertube and a couple of ty-wraps will work in a pinch.
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Old Sep 27, 2005 | 07:46 PM
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www.sourceautomotive.com I believe, for the boot.

And Baja. no problem.I will not post to your questions again. Good luck.

..Preston..
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Old Sep 27, 2005 | 08:22 PM
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Boot for $27 here http://www.fostertruck.com/dodge/default.htm

or do what I do, use a 3-4" section of 1.75" puncture proof bicycle inner tube and two cable ties. Cheaper and lasts longer than the OEM.
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Old Sep 28, 2005 | 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Baja
but if I am wrong, smack me and set me straight.
You were asking for a beating
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