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Old Mar 19, 2006 | 05:56 AM
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Cracked OIL FILTER

Hey anyone else ever crack an NAPA oil filter? I was charging the air conditioner and looked under the truck there was oil everywhere. Lucky for me it must have just happened, lost about a gallon. Took the filter off and about half way down there was a small .25 inch slit. SCARY
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Old Mar 19, 2006 | 08:23 AM
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Heard of it happening, but never experienced it. This can be caused by the oil pressure being too high, or just a defective filter.

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Old Mar 19, 2006 | 08:55 AM
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I think you better hand your truck over to me so it will never happen to you again...

I have never heard of a filter splitting, but then I am not surprised one would split now and then. I may be wrong, but the CTD has a pretty high volume oil pump to begin with and any mods that increase rpm's could really spike the pressure. I am just thinking out loud here. Maybe someone can say for sure.

Jimmy
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Old Mar 19, 2006 | 09:11 AM
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The only filters I've ever seen split are when a person uses a tool to tighten them that causes a dent.
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Old Mar 19, 2006 | 09:13 AM
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Was the split in the sheet metal or the top of the filter?
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Old Mar 19, 2006 | 01:48 PM
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When we had the oil changed on the truck we took it the machanic and the changed it and everything(the only problem is he swears by FRAM). Well my dad took the truck to work one night(in Nov.) and the drove it home the next morning. That day he had to run some where so he started up about 2 hours after he parked it and started walking back inside and he heard like water running and looked back their was oil spewing everywhere. Well the oil pressure from a cold start spun the FRAM off engough that it spewed oil out at idle and shot it out at running rpms. We wnt into town to get a Cummins/OEM filter and all the way out to town their was a noticable oil line running down the road. We got back and drained the oil and their was aboout a 1/2 gal left,if he would of just jumped in the truck and went the engine would of freaking lock up prolly no more then 1/2 mile donw the road.

From now on i wouldl never use any filter on the Cummins unless it say Cummins/OEM on it.

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Old Mar 19, 2006 | 03:07 PM
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FRAM is JUNK - no question about it

Are you sure you didnt have two of the rubber gaskets on the block? I have heard of the old gasket sticking.
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Old Mar 19, 2006 | 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr. Evil
FRAM is JUNK - no question about it

Are you sure you didnt have two of the rubber gaskets on the block? I have heard of the old gasket sticking.
If that question is torwards me then,no there was not gasket sticking to the block side. All i had to do was spin the filter off with one finger and it wnet around like 3 times and came off. The mechanic(also my dads buddy,and plowed for him) that did all the work on the cars in Pa swears by them that they are the best filters out there,mt dad and his construction partner who has a 98.5 24v Dually, they tried to get him to atleast get in Cummins/OEm filters for their trucks,but he wont do it.

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Old Mar 19, 2006 | 04:32 PM
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If that question is torwards me then,no there was not gasket sticking to the block side. All i had to do was spin the filter off with one finger and it wnet around like 3 times and came off. The mechanic(also my dads buddy,and plowed for him) that did all the work on the cars in Pa swears by them that they are the best filters out there,mt dad and his construction partner who has a 98.5 24v Dually, they tried to get him to atleast get in Cummins/OEm filters for their trucks,but he wont do it.

Jeff

Start getting someone else to do your service.
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Old Mar 19, 2006 | 04:42 PM
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Wix are excellent filters, I have used them with never a problem. There is an instance with Purolartor where filters originally designed for early Cummins where redesigned for for higher pressures as dictated by a newer specs. IF an early filter was installed on a later engine there was a chance of cracking the filter. Very remote possibility you got an older filter from Wix, did you use 51607?

I asked Purolator about the issue and got the following reply:

"The history of the Dodge Pickup filters for the Cummins diesel engines in the Purolator lines starts with the introduction of the L44422 to service the 1989 Dodge Ram pickup with the 5.9L Cummins diesel. That filter serviced the line for several years until Dodge introduced the high output version of the engine in 1998. Fleetguard, a company owned by Cummins and original equipment supplier to Cummins, introduced a new filter in 1999 which required a higher burst pressure can. Purolator's version of this filter is the L45335. Fleetguard then introduced a version of the filter with flutes. Since the filter with the higher burst pressure can services both engines, Purolator obsoleted the L44422 filter and applied the L45335 to all the applications which once required the L44422. Use of the L44422 on the later model pickups is not acceptable because the can of the filter is not capable of withstanding the added pressure, and there have, in fact, been multiple instances engine damage resulting from mis-application of the filter on these engines. When Fleetguard introduced a version of the high pressure filter with flutes, Purolator made a running change to add flutes to its can, but did not change the part number as application use did not change.

Fleetguard, being mainly a heavy duty filter company with a extremely long product line, maintains multiple filters for the applications in its aftermarket line. The original equipment line supplied to Dodge and the Purolator line keep their product lines as streamlined as possible to save its customers and vendors inventory costs whenever possible. If an improved filter meets the needs of more modern equipment and older equipment, Purolator obsoletes the older product."

Tom (Filter Hot Line)

If this doesn't apply to your particular circumstance, it might help others.
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Old Mar 19, 2006 | 06:27 PM
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And the Fleetguard evolution goes on...
Starting on March 1st many of their more popular oil and fuel filters will be available with a plastic polymer case instead of metal that is designed to be more end user friendly. The first ones made will be oil and fuel filters for Cummins 5.9-, 8.3- and 8.8-liter diesels, which are the biggest volume automotive and industrial models built by Fleetguard

More> http://www.constructionequipment.com...CA6311744.html

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Old Mar 19, 2006 | 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr. Evil
FRAM is JUNK - no question about it

Are you sure you didnt have two of the rubber gaskets on the block? I have heard of the old gasket sticking.
You got that right-- Fram is E.D.I.T.. The fault doesnt lie in the filter. It lies in yor oil system. Something internal is clogged and is causing the filter to crack. Was it bulged at all? I will get in my filter book tommorow at work and show you what it says about this. A customer of ours had this happen on a Detroit not long ago. It ended up being the oil pump pickup, or something. Napa/WIX are very good filters. Its probably a good thing it went instead of something internal.
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Old Mar 19, 2006 | 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr. Evil

Are you sure you didnt have two of the rubber gaskets on the block? I have heard of the old gasket sticking.
Ouch, double gaskets took out my Brother in Law's F150 about 5 years ago.

Simple little mistake like that can cost big!
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Old Mar 19, 2006 | 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Geico266
Was the split in the sheet metal or the top of the filter?
about half way down on the filter
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Old Mar 19, 2006 | 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by JKM
Start getting someone else to do your service.
lol.
Don't have to worry about that anymore I live 600miles away from him .

Since we moved we do all the work on the cars,except if it needs inspection or an auto trans. needs to be torn apart(don't touch those they scare me ).

Jeff
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