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Old Nov 23, 2009 | 05:32 AM
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I have owned 3 12 valve cummins over the last 15 years in trucks and motorhomes and have never touched the kdp and never had a problem. I also know at least 10 people in my area that have had early cummins engines in there trucks and none of them ever had a problem with the kdp either and after reading about the kdp problems i asked a diesel shop in my area who has worked on hundreds of cummins engines and they told me they have only heard of one engine that had this problem. I also talked to cummins factory rep and they said they heard of the problem but it is very rare so i decided not to bother with fixing the kdp and just take my chances but thats just my thoughts.
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Old Nov 23, 2009 | 07:22 AM
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I had it done at 355k.
Don't remember how much it cost, but it was worth it.
It's not that bad of a job really, just read up on it and get a KDP kit
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Old Nov 23, 2009 | 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by DieselDodd
I have owned 3 12 valve cummins over the last 15 years in trucks and motorhomes and have never touched the kdp and never had a problem. I also know at least 10 people in my area that have had early cummins engines in there trucks and none of them ever had a problem with the kdp either and after reading about the kdp problems i asked a diesel shop in my area who has worked on hundreds of cummins engines and they told me they have only heard of one engine that had this problem. I also talked to cummins factory rep and they said they heard of the problem but it is very rare so i decided not to bother with fixing the kdp and just take my chances but thats just my thoughts.
but what if you become that one guy?

i know i cant afford a new engine but doing the KDP fix was alot easier than instructions make it out to be and a heck of a lot cheaper than a new or even used engine.

if i were you i would definatley do it. you dont have to purchase a kit for it. order a seal, get some red RTV, and make a little tab to go over the KDP. it can be done on the cheap side and still done right. dont forget locktite...

i have also seen another method posted on here that is way faster. if involves a special "jig" with a drill bit. they drill the hole (in the timing case), tap it, and put a bolt in and it covers the KDP. it was my understanding that it can only be done if the KDP is still in its place or darn close to it.
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Old Nov 23, 2009 | 10:28 AM
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i just had to fix mine it worked out and cracked the case and the gears a total of $998 in repairs
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Old Nov 23, 2009 | 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by DieselDodd
I have owned 3 12 valve cummins over the last 15 years in trucks and motorhomes and have never touched the kdp and never had a problem.....
You have good luck, might as well cancel your insurance too.
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Old Nov 23, 2009 | 07:22 PM
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i just had to fix mine it worked out and cracked the case and the gears a total of $998 in repairs
Thats a cheap fix compared to some.

I know I sleep a whole lot better since mine got fixed. I certainly would not take this gamble.
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Old Nov 23, 2009 | 08:19 PM
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update#2

OK...Found out why the belt didn't fit. Tensioner was installed wrong. Hooked everything up and started the old beast. It sounds great, no oil leaks. Now I just need to fix my new problems the windshield washer fluid has started leaking, and need to save the cash for the front end parts.
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Old Nov 23, 2009 | 08:20 PM
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Oh Yeah

Kdp Is Now Killed!!!
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Old Nov 23, 2009 | 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by 1950GMC
Kdp Is Now Killed!!!
did it look like your pin had moved at all?
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Old Nov 23, 2009 | 10:08 PM
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dowel pin

CMAC: The pin was flush with the surface, it had hardly moved. My guess is I was the first person to open that cover since it was assembled.
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Old Nov 23, 2009 | 11:09 PM
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Mine moved 3/16"
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