hi ya'll i have a 98 12v with 370's in it. i think my #1 is shot. there is oil or something seeping out from where the manifold bolts to the head. i'm looking for other injectors,they don't have to be as big. my egt's get a little crazy,and the turbo is a stock hx 35. it's timed at16.5 and has arp studs. is there anything simaler that dosen't smoke like a coal truck at idle? thank ya

 

look at the new era injectors or ddp

www.neweradiesel.com

 

thanks for the site

 

I have heard nothing but good things about new era's injectors.

 

I also have heard nothing but good things about new era.

 

What is the new era? What did they do different?

 

Correct EDM spray pattern, and they make some BIG sticks for the 12v.

 

Any one running thier 435's i think thier a 5x14. And if i remeber the 370's are 5x12 so is there a lot of diff. in those 2 thousands??? What about something like a 6x14?? Anyone

 

so whats the differance between these and extruded sticks?

 

I believe the extruded uses a media they flow through the tips to smoothly increase the orffices. Not sure but i think new eras are edm, sort of a laser cut hole with the correct [angle] or spray pattern. Any one running the 435's do you like them? Are they as salty as the stage 4's?

 

does not sound like an injector problem to me, sounds like a headgasket or possibly valve guide seal depending where the oil is coming from.

 

[quote=stock600;1924032] Not sure but i think new eras are edm, sort of a laser cut hole with the correct [angle] or spray pattern./quote]
All New Era are EDM, with the correct spray pattern. And from my understanding it is some sort of lazer process. It is supposed to be a superior process to the extrude honing...

 

the oil is coming out of the top of the ear where the manifold bolts the the head. right at the bolts

 

i've a lot more good news from people who chose the ddp injectors more money but they seem to be a cleaner injector, no smoke at idle, lower egt's when compared to 370's and up to 3mpg more with stage 2's a 75hp injector for 500 i think not too bad imo i plan on going with these after i see them perform in my dads 95 2500

 

EDM means electrical discharge machining.

New Eras injectors are EDMd stock nozzles. The 435s are 5x.014".

DDP4s are EDMd stock nozzles AND extrude honed then. It cleans up the rough edges on the holes for better atomization and a cleaner spray. The DDP4s are also 5x.014"

wildmanben tried both, and this is what he had to say.

"So there has been quite a bit of discussion over which injector is bigger and better. But nobody that I have seen had real life results. So I bought both sets of injectors and am here to tell you. Your welcome...

At idle, 435s would haze steady, wouldnt ever seen to clear up. DDP4s would haze for a minute and then its clear. Hard to tell if the trucks running when I cant see the smoke out the stacks! The DDP4s would also cool down quicker than with the 435s.
At cruising speeds, 70mph. 435s ran about 775 to 800 on the pyro, DDP4s ran about 650 to 700 on the pyro.

At WOT, the DDP4s spool faster and the temps dont build as fast. In fact they seem to level off at about 1500. The 435s would keep going. 0-120 would get me too 1500 on the DDP4s. The level of smoke from the DDP4s is quite a bit less too. It smoked a bit until the turbo lit, but after that, it ran pretty clean. The 435s would leave a pretty good haze. Boost went from 48psi with the 435s to 51psi with teh DDP4s.

Mileage, usually got around 13 to 14 with the 435s. Havent filled up yet with the DDP4s yet, but should be soon.

Dyno, I did 518 on #2 with the 435s and will find out on the DDP4s in March. But the seat of the pants dyno noticed a big difference. Even the girlfriend noticed it too.

All the results are at 1300 ft elevation at below zero temps. Its been dang cold around here. Also I took out the .022 DVs for the testing too. With the DVs and 435s I was running 56 psi and smoked a ton, all the time, whether you were trying to or not. I will put them back in as soon as I get some good mileage numbers. Also will have some good dyno numbers with them in and out too.

So far, I am very impressed with the performance and quality of the DDP4s. Seems to be a great product and money well spent. The 435s are a great budget injector that got me some good power and some smokey fun for the pesky rice and tailgators, but if your looking for that last bit of power or wanting less smoke and better mileage, the DDP4s are the winner here."
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This article was posted on every forum last year.

You guys just need to do some better searching.

I have also ran New Era 370s and now the DDP4s.
I can also say the DDP4s are a better injector. They are a much cleaner injector all around and my egts have stayed the same even though the DDP4s have 50hp more than the 370s.