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Old 08-13-2007, 07:33 PM
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what boxes can you stack? I have a superchip and a van aken! if i cant stack them what is a good combo to stack?
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I have never heard of being able to stack programmers because the second programmer would erase the first. But on my truck I have the edge w/attitude and I have the superchip programmer. and the way it works is the edge reads the superchip as the stock computer setting. And I got serious HP and Torq Gains out of it
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i might try it i figured it would work but i was not sure so i figured i would ask!
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not familar with the Van Aken but is it a module or programmer
Old 08-13-2007, 07:55 PM
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i guess a mudule you plug it into the back of th ip and the map sesor and leave it hooked up under the hood!
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sell them both..go with a tst and a smarty
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will later! short on cash now got them for a deal!
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it should work fine with that setup. most people will say not to do that because they both add timing, but i've never had any problems with running two timing boxes together.
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A lot of times you can actually lose horsepower because you have to much of an advancement in timing. I have a quadzilla XZT on my 01 ctd and stacked it with a superchips programer, it ran good untill 2200 rpm then it had a real bad dead spot. So i got rid of the programer and got a diablo powerpuck and it runs alot better, and it also has a built in boost fooler to work with my 155 hp injectors.
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Originally Posted by dgarner1988
what boxes can you stack? I have a superchip and a van aken! if i cant stack them what is a good combo to stack?
They both essentially do the same thing so there's not much to be had by stacking unless you want a lot of timing. The additional timing can be harder on the headgasket and cause higher cylinder temps =\

Try a fuel only box or a set of injectors with either the super chips or the VA then sell the other. Tst and Blue chip both offer fuel only boxes.

One of the site vendors might mention another box, but their marketing confuses my simple mind Its a abc+race = something that needs be divided by zero I think
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why not a tst with an ez pretty easy to and works great.
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I have a 99 with a edge drag comp and a smarty with some 220 sticks and other small stuff with all and no fuel pusher pump got 562 out of it. You can run a module and a programmer just with the smarty you have to run even numbers to keep the timing out.
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not saying its right but heres what i did...

originally when i bought the truck it had a van akin box plugged into the main harness (pump ?), the wire was dangeling that was suposed to be connected to the map sensor (plug is for an 01 mine is a 99)

i removed the vanakin box and lost alot of low end power... so i know it is working to some degree.

i purchased a predator stage III chip removed the vanakin and installed the predator... big gains after 1900 rmp but nothing (worse than the vanakin low end)

i then installed the vanakin and left the predator in place and got back the low end power i had lost

i also added a boost elbow

other than that the truck is stock, its not a dragster and it doesnt smoke (at all) but it is a heck of alot better than it was stock
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gauges comming next week and assuming everything is ok i am thinking about 100hp injectors.
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thanks for the info! i am probaly just going to save my money and have the tranny built first before i add to much power! my still holds good! but it has 163,000. on stock tranny!


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