One huge reason to vote for Bush
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One huge reason to vote for Bush
For you Americans sitting on the fence for this coming election and you that don't vote, here is a huge incentive to vote for Bush, even if you don't completely agree with everything he has said or done. If you don't vote, then don't complain later when (when, not if!) you see your country falling apart. Don't complain later when you see the Muslims taking over key positions around the country. Don't think this will not happen, just take a look at Britain or Canada which has allowed a lot of Muslims into the country and the influence they have had in many areas of the government. This influence is not always in the best interest of the country or the long term residents.
Don't you think that when the Arab nations endorse someone like Kerry that it raises a huge red flag? When the long term enemies of the United States of America want Kerry to win, is this not scary?
Folks, as I have said many times here, you are facing the greatest threat in your history in many ways and on many fronts. Please, stop you stupid infighting, stop listening to the mainstream media that is out to destroy you and get your fat behinds down to vote for the survival of your country. If Kerry gets in, then there is a very good chance that in four more years America will be unrecognizable. And not for the better!
Muslims seek bloc vote for US election
Wed Oct 6,10:40 AM ET
BRIDGEVIEW, United States (AFP) - US Muslims have embarked on a vast drive get the community registered to vote in the presidential election to build what could be a potentially powerful voice in deciding the winner. Latest Headlines:
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The war on terror launched by President George W. Bush (news - web sites) after the September 11, 2001 attacks has antagonized huge numbers of the estimated six million Muslim Americans.
Concerns about US foreign policy in the Middle East have been replaced with concerns about their own civil rights among Muslim leaders who are now seeking to get as many people registered as possible.
"I got another one," crowed Anam El-Jabali, waving her clipboard in victory as she emerged from a mosque here to compare notes with two other volunteers.
"He's Palestinian. He's lived here for 40 years, and he's never voted, but he'll vote on November 2."
It was quite an accomplishment, noted the Palestinian-American mother of five.
"The old men are the hardest," to sign up, she explained. "They've lived here forever, but they feel hopeless. They just want to keep a low profile, and keep out of trouble."
Voter registration drives, like this one at the Bridgeview Mosque Foundation in suburban Chicago, have been the order of the day at mosques and Islamic centers across the nation in the past couple of months.
Muslim groups say the outreach effort has been unprecedented in size and scope, although they are still waiting on hard figures that would show exactly how successful they have been.
The likely beneficiary will be Democratic challenger, Massachusetts Senator John Kerry (news - web sites), although The American Muslim Task Force on Elections, an umbrella group bringing together nine US Muslim groups, has held off endorsing any one candidate.
The panel is seeking iron-clad promises on political appointes among other things before it delivers what it expects will be a Muslim bloc vote.
Polls, however, show that this small, but potentially influential voting bloc is leaning heavily towards Kerry.
Three quarters of Muslims polled recently said they would support Kerry to just seven percent for Republican Bush. The poll of 1,700 Muslims was published September 22 by Georgetown University's Center for Muslim-Christian Understanding.
"In an election as tight as this, the Muslim vote in swing states such as Florida, Michigan, Ohio and Pennsylvania could make a difference," said Zahid Bukhari, a researcher at the center.
It's a radical about-face from the 2000 presidential election, Bush made some encouraging noises about the use of secret evidence in immigration hearings and got about 40 percent of the Muslim vote.
The war on terror has changed the thinking of Muslims.
Racial profiling, the detention and deportation of an unknown number of young men from Arab and Muslim countries, some for fairly minor immigration violations, and the Justice Department (news - web sites)'s crackdown on suspect Muslim charities have all fueled a sense of persecution.
Reports that the Federal Bureau of Investigation may step up surveillance of mosques and renew a program of random interrogations of Muslims in the lead up to the elections has stoked old fears.
"The community is scared and depressed," said Joy Shaffea, as she emerged from a prayer service at the Bridgeview Mosque Foundation here.
"We want to feel like we used to. We want to live in comfort, not fear."
More than anything else, Shaffea hopes that a new administration would change the tone in the national debate about the war on terror and Islam.
"I hope Kerry gets in there and appoints people who start talking intelligently," she said. "They need to quit generalising, calling all Arabs evil-doers and all those other stupid names Bush uses."
Don't you think that when the Arab nations endorse someone like Kerry that it raises a huge red flag? When the long term enemies of the United States of America want Kerry to win, is this not scary?
Folks, as I have said many times here, you are facing the greatest threat in your history in many ways and on many fronts. Please, stop you stupid infighting, stop listening to the mainstream media that is out to destroy you and get your fat behinds down to vote for the survival of your country. If Kerry gets in, then there is a very good chance that in four more years America will be unrecognizable. And not for the better!
Muslims seek bloc vote for US election
Wed Oct 6,10:40 AM ET
BRIDGEVIEW, United States (AFP) - US Muslims have embarked on a vast drive get the community registered to vote in the presidential election to build what could be a potentially powerful voice in deciding the winner. Latest Headlines:
All Election Coverage
The war on terror launched by President George W. Bush (news - web sites) after the September 11, 2001 attacks has antagonized huge numbers of the estimated six million Muslim Americans.
Concerns about US foreign policy in the Middle East have been replaced with concerns about their own civil rights among Muslim leaders who are now seeking to get as many people registered as possible.
"I got another one," crowed Anam El-Jabali, waving her clipboard in victory as she emerged from a mosque here to compare notes with two other volunteers.
"He's Palestinian. He's lived here for 40 years, and he's never voted, but he'll vote on November 2."
It was quite an accomplishment, noted the Palestinian-American mother of five.
"The old men are the hardest," to sign up, she explained. "They've lived here forever, but they feel hopeless. They just want to keep a low profile, and keep out of trouble."
Voter registration drives, like this one at the Bridgeview Mosque Foundation in suburban Chicago, have been the order of the day at mosques and Islamic centers across the nation in the past couple of months.
Muslim groups say the outreach effort has been unprecedented in size and scope, although they are still waiting on hard figures that would show exactly how successful they have been.
The likely beneficiary will be Democratic challenger, Massachusetts Senator John Kerry (news - web sites), although The American Muslim Task Force on Elections, an umbrella group bringing together nine US Muslim groups, has held off endorsing any one candidate.
The panel is seeking iron-clad promises on political appointes among other things before it delivers what it expects will be a Muslim bloc vote.
Polls, however, show that this small, but potentially influential voting bloc is leaning heavily towards Kerry.
Three quarters of Muslims polled recently said they would support Kerry to just seven percent for Republican Bush. The poll of 1,700 Muslims was published September 22 by Georgetown University's Center for Muslim-Christian Understanding.
"In an election as tight as this, the Muslim vote in swing states such as Florida, Michigan, Ohio and Pennsylvania could make a difference," said Zahid Bukhari, a researcher at the center.
It's a radical about-face from the 2000 presidential election, Bush made some encouraging noises about the use of secret evidence in immigration hearings and got about 40 percent of the Muslim vote.
The war on terror has changed the thinking of Muslims.
Racial profiling, the detention and deportation of an unknown number of young men from Arab and Muslim countries, some for fairly minor immigration violations, and the Justice Department (news - web sites)'s crackdown on suspect Muslim charities have all fueled a sense of persecution.
Reports that the Federal Bureau of Investigation may step up surveillance of mosques and renew a program of random interrogations of Muslims in the lead up to the elections has stoked old fears.
"The community is scared and depressed," said Joy Shaffea, as she emerged from a prayer service at the Bridgeview Mosque Foundation here.
"We want to feel like we used to. We want to live in comfort, not fear."
More than anything else, Shaffea hopes that a new administration would change the tone in the national debate about the war on terror and Islam.
"I hope Kerry gets in there and appoints people who start talking intelligently," she said. "They need to quit generalising, calling all Arabs evil-doers and all those other stupid names Bush uses."
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wow that's really scary.... maybe what the americans should do is round up all the muslims and place them in special towns, you know with barbed wire around it and special towers with machine guns....
mextan, you post a lot of thought provoking stuff that can sometimes be educational, I think this is boardering on hate mongering.... just my opinion....
mextan, you post a lot of thought provoking stuff that can sometimes be educational, I think this is boardering on hate mongering.... just my opinion....
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Originally posted by westcoaster
wow that's really scary.... maybe what the americans should do is round up all the muslims and place them in special towns, you know with barbed wire around it and special towers with machine guns....
mextan, you post a lot of thought provoking stuff that can sometimes be educational, I think this is boardering on hate mongering.... just my opinion....
wow that's really scary.... maybe what the americans should do is round up all the muslims and place them in special towns, you know with barbed wire around it and special towers with machine guns....
mextan, you post a lot of thought provoking stuff that can sometimes be educational, I think this is boardering on hate mongering.... just my opinion....
Look at all the wars in the world today most if not all are Muslims Killing Christians, Jews and Hindus.
Should we start camps? No should we deport all non citizens? Yes.
Should we take off the gloves and fight fire with fire ? Yes.
But hey we will be happy to have them move up North with you.
Stan you are right on My Canadian friend.
Just My Opinion.
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Originally posted by ramlovingvet
Stan you are right on My Canadian friend.
Just My Opinion.
Stan you are right on My Canadian friend.
Just My Opinion.
Psssst, Stan's not Canadian.
He hails from South Africa, then Canada, now Mexico, retaining Canadian Citizenship.
phox
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Originally posted by ramlovingvet
IMHO you are dead wrong. Muslims are not peaceful. Muslims believe if you can not change a person over to being a Muslim you should Kill them. Muslims Killed 3000 + People on 911
Look at all the wars in the world today most if not all are Muslims Killing Christians, Jews and Hindus.
Should we start camps? No should we deport all non citizens? Yes.
Should we take off the gloves and fight fire with fire ? Yes.
But hey we will be happy to have them move up North with you.
Stan you are right on My Canadian friend.
Just My Opinion.
IMHO you are dead wrong. Muslims are not peaceful. Muslims believe if you can not change a person over to being a Muslim you should Kill them. Muslims Killed 3000 + People on 911
Look at all the wars in the world today most if not all are Muslims Killing Christians, Jews and Hindus.
Should we start camps? No should we deport all non citizens? Yes.
Should we take off the gloves and fight fire with fire ? Yes.
But hey we will be happy to have them move up North with you.
Stan you are right on My Canadian friend.
Just My Opinion.
So, if bush gets elected can muslims assume there will be some suspension of their civil liberties that won't happen if kerry gets elected?
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Originally posted by phox_mulder
Psssst, Stan's not Canadian.
He hails from South Africa, then Canada, now Mexico, retaining Canadian Citizenship.
phox
Psssst, Stan's not Canadian.
He hails from South Africa, then Canada, now Mexico, retaining Canadian Citizenship.
phox
a 'african-canadian-mexican' ?
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Can't you guys get ANYTHING right? Actually, I confuse the locals badly when I tell them I have 2.5 nationalities. Born South African, have Canuk citizenship and now married to a lovely Mexican senorita (the .5)
I have never ever been politically correct so you can't convert me now.
I have never ever been politically correct so you can't convert me now.
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Originally posted by Mexstan
Can't you guys get ANYTHING right? Actually, I confuse the locals badly when I tell them I have 2.5 nationalities. Born South African, have Canuk citizenship and now married to a lovely Mexican senorita (the .5)
I have never ever been politically correct so you can't convert me now.
Can't you guys get ANYTHING right? Actually, I confuse the locals badly when I tell them I have 2.5 nationalities. Born South African, have Canuk citizenship and now married to a lovely Mexican senorita (the .5)
I have never ever been politically correct so you can't convert me now.
phox
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Originally posted by westcoaster
now that we have established that muslims, any muslim, is a threat to the security of the US, how do you plan on countering this new and imminent danger? Ok, so you dont want to start camps, may be banning all muslims from voting? how about a registry for all muslims? id cards that must be carried at all times, or perhaps a tatto...
So, if bush gets elected can muslims assume there will be some suspension of their civil liberties that won't happen if kerry gets elected?
now that we have established that muslims, any muslim, is a threat to the security of the US, how do you plan on countering this new and imminent danger? Ok, so you dont want to start camps, may be banning all muslims from voting? how about a registry for all muslims? id cards that must be carried at all times, or perhaps a tatto...
So, if bush gets elected can muslims assume there will be some suspension of their civil liberties that won't happen if kerry gets elected?
All kidding aside, try to remember that Stan is giving his opinion of things and not the plans of the President of the United States. I hardly think your opinion is the official line of the Canadian government either.
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Originally posted by ramlovingvet
[B]IMHO you are dead wrong. Muslims are not peaceful.
[B]IMHO you are dead wrong. Muslims are not peaceful.
Muslims believe if you can not change a person over to being a Muslim you should Kill them. Muslims Killed 3000 + People on 911
Look at all the wars in the world today most if not all are Muslims Killing Christians, Jews and Hindus.
Should we start camps? No should we deport all non citizens? Yes.
Should we take off the gloves and fight fire with fire ? Yes.
Should we take off the gloves and fight fire with fire ? Yes.
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Hello Stan,
I asure you it was all in good spirit, more than anything I wanted to highlight the "stupidity" of being politicaly correct, instead of just being plain right.
The worse I could ever say about you is that you are an upstanding, pasionate guy, one that I would happily call a friend.
Cheers,
Peter
I asure you it was all in good spirit, more than anything I wanted to highlight the "stupidity" of being politicaly correct, instead of just being plain right.
The worse I could ever say about you is that you are an upstanding, pasionate guy, one that I would happily call a friend.
Cheers,
Peter
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Originally posted by Hoss
Who you callin' fat??
Who you callin' fat??
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I got it pretty close didn't I?
So phox, does that make you half right, or half wrong?
Peter: thanks.
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Originally posted by Jack Thorpe
... So who killed who in Russia recently?...
... So who killed who in Russia recently?...
Weren't the 'killers' in Russia Chechen terrorists? Muslim Chechen terrorists?
This is not to contradict your point, I think it is valid, but rather for the sake of accuracy.
Well, one point: I personlay find it "very poor" on the vast part of the world's Muslim population the lack of "outcries" and calls for peace, and condemnations of their wayward bretheren.