View Full Version : Diesel grows on Trees!!??!!
Oilguy
04-07-2008, 06:29 PM
LOL...
Yeah!
http://www.smh.com.au/news/National/Farmer-planning-diesel-tree-biofuel/2006/09/19/1158431695812.html
Diesel does grow on trees....
Plant 1000 diesel trees on one Hector of land (or 2.258 acres) and it will produce 12,000 liters of fuel! (or 3,170 gallons)
Honestly... I can't think of a down side to this plan!! Other than the time it would take to start producing fuel... But what is the alternative in 5 years for us diesel burners???
Oilguy
Tough Old Goat
04-08-2008, 12:39 AM
Diesel from trees,it would work.
Oil is fuel and apparently it doesnt matter what the source is.
Here is a link to the PES-Wiki Agae Diesel directory.
http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Biodiesel_from_Algae_Oil
This has the advantage in that it does'nt deplete or even need soil,
just a scrap of a plastic bag,a cup of water and sunlight and a few hours later,
Oil.
Check the Algae yield per acre versus crop yield per acre,amazing.
hamilton71801
04-08-2008, 08:03 AM
I was listening to "Timber Talk" the other day on the radio and the forester said that they have plants going on line this year in Georgia and more to come in other states...mine included. What they will do is harvest all the left overs from log operations by chipping them up and using it for fuel. He said they will use up the entire tree instead of leaving any waste behind. He also said that there is enough timber in South Arkansas to provide the state with 25% of it's fuel. I say bring it on.
kawi600
04-08-2008, 09:50 AM
I dont like the idea of farming anything for oil.. it would take up farmland that could be used to grow food and also push for deforestation in places like the amazon. So far algae biodiesel looks like the best bet for all concerns.
patdaly
04-08-2008, 11:15 AM
The only problem I see is so far, they would only grow in South Florida.
Perhaps with some genetic modifications we could see them further north.
I would plant them in my yard, that's for sure......
mmurray
04-08-2008, 01:09 PM
I was reading an article the other day and they estimated 10% of the land in Arizona could produce engouh oil to meet the entire US needs from algae.
John Faughn
04-08-2008, 02:09 PM
I saw a video about a coal fired electrical power plant , it uses algae to clean the carbon out of the exhaust , then make biodiesel , whats left of the algae is mixed with the coal & burned .
Farming algae looks to be the best & real possibility , not competing with other consumption , food / grains .
Very few push it , because it new , infrastructure , unlike soybean / corn , I see as a corrupt mentality - definition - instead of using logic to find the most efficient way , use already in demand grains / foods , raising costs across the board making nothing viable , either the food/grain or bio , its so screwed up now many processors have stopped making bio .
BigDiesel396
04-08-2008, 03:04 PM
I would just like to point out the fact they said "if left in storage too long it will thicken into copaiba (sp?) oil and be used in alternative medicines and can be sold in the US for up to $100 a litre.... Since I cannot see diesel prices getting up to that amount, you would be farther ahead to sell the oil and buy Diesel as you need it.....
taildragger
04-08-2008, 04:14 PM
I would just like to point out the fact they said "if left in storage too long it will thicken into copaiba (sp?) oil and be used in alternative medicines and can be sold in the US for up to $100 a litre.... Since I cannot see diesel prices getting up to that amount, you would be farther ahead to sell the oil and buy Diesel as you need it.....
It wouldn't take too much production of a specialty oil to saturate the market.
Something that can easily be made and sold as fuel will more than likely see that as its destination since it can make the money faster and easier, its just a matter of getting those dead dino's out of the way
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