Nice, air bags are the way to go for the heavy hauls.

 

So ok answer me this on a 2500HD with the factory over loads can you add the tim brins to help soften the ride loaded? would the factory over loads along with the timbrens be a good choice for the every day hauler that wont want air bags?

 

Not wanting to get into the debate here but rather just to answer the original post, I have run both and like the Ride rites better for leveling out heavy loads. I just keep one of the small 12v compressors in the truck in case I need air when I'm not near a service station ( though I haven't needed it yet?) or need it for a flat tire. Stability with real heavy loads is second to none and with them aired down you don't know they are there. Just my $.02

 

I don't really even need the air bags I have. I put them on before I got the trailer thinking I was going to have my head lights pointing toward the moon.....not the case. I'm hauling a large Toy hauler with pin weight some where around 2800 to 3000lbs. That puts me over GVWR by 400-600 lbs.
And with that weight, the helper springs are not even close to touching the blocks, and the truck has a very small sag.
I added air to the bags this weekend >40lbs....now it's perfectly level.

Can't do that with Timbrens.

And not hauling the trailer I ran the minimum of 5psi., never changed the ride a bit with them set at that. If you have air bags... just run the 5psi, you'll never know their there...........in tell you need them.

 

I have the Timbrens on my 2500 2wd to help with too much sag with 2200 lb of pin weight. They bring the rear up when loaded for a level ride and stopped my driveline launch shudder. No air leaks as my air bags did on my '01 2500. Great product.
JIM

 

I like the airbags,them other things sound fine for the part-timer.

 

I have used both types and prefer the Ride Rites. They were the first thing I added to my Mega. I carry a portable air compressor to air up my 315's but even a small auto type would be more than sufficient to air up the Ride Rites. I like the fact that I can air for the load, whatever the load might be. I live/travel/haul in a lot of mountains and when you have a trailer in tow going down hill in turns more often than mot you will get a little suspension roll/body roll - kind of a pogo effect. With the Ride Rites I can air up for the load and NOT have the roll/pogo in the downhill turns. You cannot take out that stuff with the Timbrins. As far as a shop lift is concerned, I either deflate the bags for a frame lift OR go to shops with drive on rails. You can also make a set of wraps that keep the axle up, I forget what you call them, but you can use wratcheting straps or an old pair of seat belts, something along those lines. I have seen several who have the bags with limit straps bolted on too. I have the Ride Rites on my 1989 Ford farm truck, 235K miles on them, never a problem.

I run 5#'s empty, just barely makes a lift in the bags, pretty much on the stock suspension, lots of suspension travel on/off road. No complaints here regarding performance, just love them.

CD

 

Why don't you e-mail Don Thuren and you can try to convey this to him. He is only one of the most knowledgable suspension guys around, especially for Dodges, and is the one who initially told me about how airbags kill your suspension travel.

 

Can we agree to disagree .

 

Explain why would I have to talk to anyone about air bags? I run them and would never use anything else, If timberlines could level a truck when loaded I may cosider them,, but you and this Don guy, both know they cant!! but for now i will stick with air bags, and not something like rubber blocks from the 60's

WHy do you need so much travel anyways????? When i haul my trailer I cant bottom it out even with 5 psi in them. I use them to bring it back to level height
Please explain,, if timbrens are mounted 1 inch away from the rear end housing How do you not loose travel? At least with my airbags I have 6 inches of gap between the mounting points and even loaded,, just add air and you still have 6 inches travel,, that again is something timbrens CANT DO
On another note I have been told by lots of trucks specialists that once told me the FOrd 6.0 was the best diesel on the market,, I never believed that either

 

there not rubber blocks ther computer designer hollow rubber round egg shaped and they are progressive. they probally make 200 different sizes depending on what your truck is rated for .you dont see the moon and they keep the truck level if not over loaded.how can someone make comments on something they have not seen or used . i have a 02 3500 ctd with air bags . thats why i put timbrens on my 03 power stroke an my 06 3500ctd, (reasons ) no airing up no airing down no compressor no valve stems to leak no air guages to hunt for no straps to stop suspension travel no bounce no dry rot . all these things i have experinced with my air bags. no brainer. timbrens all the way !!!!!!!!!

 

Like I said, you lose all travel when the airbags are DEFLATED. I never mad ea claim about suspension travel when they were inflated which seems to be all you want to talk about. If you want to argue a point that cannot possibly be the case, you might want to at least know what it is you are arguing against!

I will "agree to disagree" because my posts were not intended to 'convert' anyone; merely to state the facts for those who have not yet decided.

Please keep this thread on topic.

 

outlawstorm your right i can say from ( experince ) the 6.0 is not the best diesel ctd rules!

 

Yes they do!!!

 

good night john boy good night mary ellen good night jim bob darn i forget the other ones name .ill start a thread to find out .good night guys