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Old Nov 5, 2005 | 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom Bolitho
Any time you tow any trailer weighing ore than 10,000 lbs you need a CDL. Travel trailers are exempt. Chances are the highway patrol would not mess with you, if everything looks good on your rig.
Not quite true...

FMCSR §383.5 Definitions.

Commercial motor vehicle (CMV) means a motor vehicle or combination of motor vehicles used in commerce to transport passengers or property if the motor vehicle-

(a) Has a gross combination weight rating of 11,794 kilograms or more (26,001 pounds or more) inclusive of a towed unit(s) with a gross vehicle weight rating of more than 4,536 kilograms (10,000 pounds); or

(b) Has a gross vehicle weight rating of 11,794 or more kilograms (26,001 pounds or more); or

(c) Is designed to transport 16 or more passengers, including the driver; or

(d) Is of any size and is used in the transportation of hazardous materials as defined in this section.


The term "motor vehicle used in commerce" is the key. Generally a vehicle or combination of vehicles with a GVWR of more than 26,001 pounds require a CDL to operate. There are many exceptions, including farm or Ag use, etc.

Since your rig will be less that the 26,001 pounds, you do not need a CDL.

If your load is overdimentional, you might be required to run the over-size load signs. The requirements vary from state to state on overdimentional hauling.

The Federal Motor Carrier Safety Regulations can be found online here.
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Old Nov 5, 2005 | 07:12 PM
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Think money, if money is involved, you need a CDL for the weights we have been discussing. If there is no employment, compinsation, settlements etc, then no CDL is required, at least for interstate driving (except where hazardous materials in specified amounts are moved, but that's a different topic). I can go buy myself a brand new Peterbuilt (this time with a Cummins, of course) and use it to tow a 28,000 pound camper. I've exceeded my 26,000 (tractor and trailer), which would require a class B if I was being paid to bring it to a customer, but since the camper itself is over 10,000, I need a class A. However, since I am going to use it myself to camp in (not that I need one), I do not need to have a commercial driver's licence- it is only for "commercial" purposes.

Ok, I will quit beating this dead hoarse. Go get your tractor!
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Old Nov 6, 2005 | 12:10 PM
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and where are the pics? hopefully you have made it home safely
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Old Nov 6, 2005 | 02:09 PM
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You don't need a CDL to pull privatley unless you are over #26000 gvwr now if a friend hired you to go get it and pull it home it would be considered commercial and you would need a Class A CDL
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Old Nov 6, 2005 | 10:46 PM
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Well I got it home saturday night. Had a great trip, and seen a lot of really nice farm ground. Round trip was about 10 hours which includes rest stops and loading/BSin with the manager. What a picture a big red truck pulling a big red tractor. Got a lot of looks going down the road plus a friendly wave from every farmer we passed next to the road or out in the feild.

What a great tractor. I think it was about all the trailer I used wanted but the truck pulled it fine. It was the first time we towed with our 96 dually auto and it did the job better than I thought. Never droped below 60MPH and got 13MPH coming home and 16 going up. That 96 sure does ride great. plus the trailer did a better job than our friends trailer would have :unsure: . Got to load it up again tomarrow and take the tractor up to G-town Ohio to get it checked out anc serviced before we can take ownership of it. Haveing the air ride cab and seat make it like driveing a caddy even on rough ground. also the common rail injection makes it really quiet. I think it was well worth the money we paid for it. Only thing I did not know was it was about 2k pounds heavier than I thought it was :lol: Now for my next trip I have to go north of st. louis to pick up our round baler which should be a fun trip.
I will get picks of both as soon as we get the checked out and home.
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Old Nov 8, 2005 | 06:52 PM
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Mxu 125 eh? Very nice tractor! I worked for the case dealer up here for a while back in the day , and they let me borrow the very first 125 on the lot for a very special occasion...

Look here:
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/jaymek...08.jpg&.src=ph
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/jaymek...39.jpg&.src=ph
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/jaymek...b1.jpg&.src=ph
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/jaymek...58.jpg&.src=ph

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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by kcastun
Mxu 125 eh? Very nice tractor! I worked for the case dealer up here for a while back in the day , and they let me borrow the very first 125 on the lot for a very special occasion...

Look here:
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/jaymek...08.jpg&.src=ph
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/jaymek...39.jpg&.src=ph
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/jaymek...b1.jpg&.src=ph
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/jaymek...58.jpg&.src=ph

You can't get much more redneck plowboy than that.
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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 06:01 PM
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If you dont want to do it I will for the 1k, i have a 20,000# gooseneck and have hauled tractors before.
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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 07:54 PM
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A little late on the last post, this is a done deal already.
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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 10:25 PM
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Well I might also be getting married in my New tractor. It sure is nice with all the extras
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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 10:30 PM
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And people call me strange. When I was sittin up at Ft McCoy, Wi. for military mobilization and the wife was coming to visit I made her rattle her teeth loose all the way up there in my truck instead of her brand new Hemmi cause I wanted to see my truck again before I left. I even put a sound byte on the computer I was taking with me so I could listen to it once in a while. But I don't hold a candle to you folks gettin married on your tractors.
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Old Nov 10, 2005 | 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by dodgeman01
Well later we found out by talking to a few guys that haul locally Chris Watson that I would have to have a CDL to haul it and that we also would have to stop at every weigh station on the way back.
Partially correct. If you were like them, hauling for a living, you'd need a CDL. Since you are not, you don't need one. Call the DOT and ask for clarification, but I really wouldn't lose any sleep over this.

I pull double hay trailers all the time, thru WY, MT and ID. Never been stopped and I don't pull into the coops, exc for AG inspection.
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Old Nov 11, 2005 | 06:40 PM
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You guys worry to much. A wise man once told me "go straight ahead until somebody tells you to stop". I have been doing that with our 48' take 3 stepdeck car hauler for 3 years now on an 18k plate somtimes grossing over 36k and have never been so much as sneezed at(nock on wood). I have been in Mo, Ill, Ia, Ks, Ok, TX, Ark, Ind, Wi, and Neb. Never stoped at a scale ever. They almost came after me 2 weeks ago I think. One of the boys in the chicken coop watched me go on pass him with his binoculars, but he didn't follow me. We have "Private Carrier-Not For Hire" posted on the trailer, because that is what we are. It has worked ok for me so far but i am sure my luck will run out one day, but imagine all the money and trouble I will have saved up till that point! If they give me a couple hundred $ ticket what the heck. If and when that happens I'll do something different, maybe get a smaller trailer with only 2-7k axles instead of 3-7k's. Ok go ahead and crucify me now
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Old Nov 11, 2005 | 06:43 PM
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And if you want to see what I look like going down the highway look in my gallery. That was 28k gross of the whole rig, but I have been waaaaaayyyyy heavier. If they don't give me trouble you guys will be all right.
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Old Nov 11, 2005 | 09:40 PM
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what do you mean by an 18k plate ? license plate?

Nice trailer. 28K - what do the minivans weigh each?

There is a difference between "Not for hire" and non commercial. You can be commercial but not for hire! But like you said, it sounds like this is a 1 time thing and it's for personal use, no big deal.
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