I work for a farm equipment company in the research and development dept.
We are about to purchase a Chevy 2500HD(I know it is not a Dodge but HR said they get a discount on GM products ) and a 36ft enclosed trailer to haul prototype equipment in. We are based in GA but we travel in North Eastern states and the Southeastern states. The truck has GVWR of 9,200 and trailer is 14,000 lbs. The truck will only be driven by me and one other co-worker but will be owned by the company. We will only haul our own equipment in the trailer.

My question is do I and the Co-worker need CDL's or what do I need?

I have been told that the truck will need a DOT number and we will need DOT Health Cards but no CDL. Is this correct?

Thanks for the help.

Andy

 

That is correct but check with your home state. Some strict states require a CDL if the trailer GVW is over 10K no matter what. Generally this is not the case and is not the case according to the FMCSA. If your home state doesn't require it, even if you go through one of those strict states you are (should be) fine.

9200 + 14000 = 23,200. You need a CDL at 26,001 gross combined weight or gcw rating.

 

I am not sure but with all of the weight that you will be hauling I think you will need a CDL. I think that anything that needs a DOT number is considered a commercial vehicle but I am not for sure. A CDL wouldn't be that hard to get with the rig you will be using. Just take the rig in for the driving test and take a written test and your done. I would check with the state Department of Transportation to be sure.

 

Thanks for the comment. I just got of the phone with the DMV for GA and they told me I did not need anything special. Just a normal class C driver's license will do. They said as long as the trailer empty weight is less than 10000 lbs there is no need for CDL.
Thanks
Andy

 

More on-line arguments have been started over CDL license and weight laws than I care to count.

That being said, CDL are Federal and requirements interstate are the same for all states. In state of origin, you can get by with stuff that won't cut it when out of state.

I am afraid you will sooner or later find that for your weight-rated trailer Class A CDL are required.

Log book, physical, cab-card, IFTA sticker, etc. will also be required.

Also, I would be hesitant to travel far from home in a 2500 truck pulling an empty 36' trailer.

 

bear killer you might be starting an arguement yourself

There are no state laws that are MORE lax than Federal laws....

Please do tell how you get that IFTA and a CDL are required.

In some states if the trailer is 10K GVW or more (I don't know the rules exactly because it doesn't effect me) you need a CDL or some type of CDL, but if my home state doesn't require it (and it doesn't) and I go to this other more strict state, they can't enforce their rules on me.

For example in NY you need a CDL at 18K. I go into NY with 26K and they can't enforce their 18K rule on me.

 

[QUOTE=andyt]I work for a farm equipment company in the research and development dept.
We are about to purchase a Chevy 2500HD(I know it is not a Dodge but HR said they get a discount on GM products ) and a 36ft enclosed trailer to haul prototype equipment in. We are based in GA but we travel in North Eastern states and the Southeastern states. The truck has GVWR of 9,200 and trailer is 14,000 lbs. The truck will only be driven by me and one other co-worker but will be owned by the company. We will only haul our own equipment in the trailer.

My question is do I and the Co-worker need CDL's or what do I need?

I have been told that the truck will need a DOT number and we will need DOT Health Cards but no CDL. Is this correct? If the company's name is displayed
on the side of the truck with a DOT # then you will have to meet the Fed requirements for interstate trucking. If you keep the door clean then you must meet your state's requirements.( no DOT #)

 

My experiences with any kind of DOT numbers or signs on the door will get you stopped if you by-pass a weight station

I haul commercial and have all the DOT requirements to do this......but at times I will pull my trailer for my personal needs when I do this I take all my signs off so I dont need to go thru the weight stations or comply with DOT regs......I forgot this once while traveling thru Virginia and by-passed a entry scale they chased me down and gave me a ticket even tied to explain that it was a private load and I forgot to remove my signs....(didnt work)

 

having a cdl is not what it is cracked up to be, all of a sudden you are the one that has to drive the big stuff, well around here the little 4 wheelers are so anoying and oblivious to the thought of you trying to stop....... Also just recently they changed the laws here in NJ, now if you are driving your personal vehicle, could be a geo metro, and get a dui BAM, there goes the cdl for a longer time than you loose your regular license. then heaven forbid you ever get a second dui, then you loose your cdl for life. Another big indicator for cdl requirement is air brakes, if it has them no matter the gvcw you need the cdl.

 

Patrick Campbell,New Yorks requirements are the same as every other state.The 10,000 lb trailer rule only applies if your gross weight is over 26001.http://www.cdl-course.com/faq-ny.html

 

Actually it doesn't matter what the weight of the trailer is if your Gvwr is over 26001. You would also need a CDL if the actual weight of the trailer is over 10,000lbs. So basically if you are towing a 14k trailer empty you are all set, but if you load it over 10k and are stopped at the weigh station, you better have a CDL.

 

It used to be 18K like I said I don't pay attention to it because I don't have to. \

I think you guys are just being confusing.

His truck GVWR is 9200 his trailer is 14000. Add it together (23200 lbs) and he is under 26,000 lbs GVWR that is all that matters assuming he doesn't load the truck/trailer above the combined GCWR, UNLESS his state is more strict than FMCSA standards.

 

I pay attention because I better.

Trailer rated over 10,000, regardless of actual weight, regardless of weight rating of truck, regardless of gross weight, requires class A CDL.

If the air-brake test is not passed, then there will be an air-brake restriction on the license.

Hauling private is not immune from CDL requirements so long as truck or trailer weight rating requires them.


Now I will hush and say no more.

 

Bear this is not right.

If your GCWR is over 26,000 and the trailer GVW is over 10,000, you need a Class A.

If your truck GVW is over 26,000 and the trailer GVW is 10,000 or under you need a Class B.

If your GCWR is not over 26,000 you are free to do whatever unless your HOME state is more strict.

If your truck GVW is exactly 26,000 lbs and your trailer GVW is exactly 10,000, you still don't need any CDL.

This is straight from the FMCSA.

Your state:
http://transportation.ky.gov/drlic/c...ng_license.htm

 

but regardless of the weight, if it has air brakes you must have a cdl. if ands or butts anyone?